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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #99

    This is just wrong:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vaccine-delivery-canceled-to-country-that-did-not-condemn-russia/ar-AAUKbha?ocid=msedgntp

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #100

      Strassel at WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-failing-sanctions-test-oil-gas-energy-banking-treasury-ukraine-putin-russia-oligarchs-multilateral-lend-lease-war-invasion-atrocity-war-crime-11646952980?mod=e2two

      The president continues to insist he’s “enforcing the most significant package of economic sanctions in history” against Vladimir Putin’s regime...

      The reality is far different, which accounts for rising frustration in Congress—and growing divisions between even Democrats and the White House. The administration refused to impose sanctions in the lead-up to Mr. Putin’s invasion, naively trusting diplomacy. Yet even after Russian tanks rolled—and despite having months to prepare—the response has been slow, timid, hostage to feel-good “multilateralism” and unwilling to attack the real engine of the Russian economy: energy. Even the president’s own party is losing patience with his inadequate sanctions.

      Consider that Treasury announcement. In late February Mr. Biden grandly announced sanctions targeting Russian banks. Yet on Friday, Treasury quietly clarified that the sanctions won’t apply to the banks’ energy transactions until June 24—meaning Wall Street can continue to trade in Russian oil and gas. “The energy sector of the Russian Federation economy itself is not subject to comprehensive sanctions,” explained Treasury’s website, a scandalous caveat the media largely ignored.

      The White House has also demanded congressional Democrats stand down on a bipartisan bill that would suspend Russia’s preferential trading status with the U.S.—again, seemingly in order to discuss it to death with Europe. The good news is that lawmakers in both parties said late this week that they remain undeterred and may pass the trade restriction next week—potentially forcing Mr. Biden’s hand again.

      The White House is nonetheless getting its way when it comes to blocking a Republican bill from Sen. Jim Risch that would impose real sanctions on Russia’s oil, gas, mining and mineral sectors. It targets oligarchs. It would create a lend-lease program to ensure Ukraine will continue to get necessary military resources. Crucially, it provides for “secondary sanctions” against global institutions that finance the Russian economy. As Mr. Risch notes, these secondary sanctions would “force the world’s financial institutions to make a choice between Russia and Western markets” and finally “isolate” the Russian economy.

      The White House is resisting all this for the same reason it resisted the Russian oil embargo. Truly punishing sanctions against Russia’s energy sector are still anathema to Old Europe allies who want to continue importing Russian oil. The administration also fears that seriously targeting Russian energy would further drive up gasoline prices, hurting Mr. Biden domestically.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #101

        No idea of the veracity of these.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #102

          FNwojseVQAYpEi1.jpeg

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            FNwojseVQAYpEi1.jpeg

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #103

            @George-K

            Isn’t that just wonderful, Russians will get to go back to Soviet style dentistry. If nothing else it’ll toughen up the post USSR generation.

            My spouse has spent the last 27 years trying to correct the dentistry of her first 24 years. It’s still a work in progress.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              @George-K

              Isn’t that just wonderful, Russians will get to go back to Soviet style dentistry. If nothing else it’ll toughen up the post USSR generation.

              My spouse has spent the last 27 years trying to correct the dentistry of her first 24 years. It’s still a work in progress.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #104

              @Renauda if you recall, the motivation of Marco Raimius (a Lithuanian, I might add) in "The Hunt for Red October" to defect was the horrible medical care that his wife received under Soviet medicine.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #105

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #106

                  Everything is going according to plan. A very crazy and stupid plan.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • George KG George K

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #107

                    @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                    USSR (or CCCP), here we come!!

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                    • George KG George K

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #108

                      @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                      I would hope the western companies can be compensated with Russian central bank assets.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #109

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                          I would hope the western companies can be compensated with Russian central bank assets.

                          MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #110

                          @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                          @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                          I would hope the western companies can be compensated with Russian central bank assets.

                          One would think that likely.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #111

                            Speaking of expropriations

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                            LuFins DadL RenaudaR 2 Replies Last reply
                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Speaking of expropriations

                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #112

                              @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                              Speaking of expropriations

                              I’m Loving It!

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                                Speaking of expropriations

                                I’m Loving It!

                                George KG Offline
                                George KG Offline
                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #113

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Sanctions?:

                                I’m Loving It!

                                Link to video

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Speaking of expropriations

                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #114

                                  @jon-nyc said in Sanctions?:

                                  Speaking of expropriations

                                  😂

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #115

                                    India is not playing ball …

                                    India Buys Russian Oil Despite Pressure For Sanctions Over Ukraine War
                                    Indian media reports said Russia was offering a discount on oil purchases of 20% below global benchmark prices.

                                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/india-buys-russian-oil_n_62343ee2e4b009ab92f6bda0

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #116

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #117

                                        @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                        Heard that this am on BBC.

                                        What he going to do - convert the rubles into bitcoin?

                                        https://theamericanscholar.org/putins-gambit/

                                        Elbows up!

                                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                                          @George-K said in Sanctions?:

                                          Heard that this am on BBC.

                                          What he going to do - convert the rubles into bitcoin?

                                          https://theamericanscholar.org/putins-gambit/

                                          George KG Offline
                                          George KG Offline
                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #118

                                          @Renauda said in Sanctions?:

                                          What he going to do - convert the rubles into bitcoin?

                                          LOL.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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