Watching Lia Thomas win

[jon-nyc]

Good.

[Copper]

If the ERA becomes law you won't have to go the trans route.

Just beat them straight up, no hormones needed.

[Horace]

Is there any actual current rule that would limit a Lia Thomas sort to just identify as a woman and compete against women? Or is there some sort of rule, an accidental nod to reality, saying the trans woman has to have had hormones or a procedure?

[Copper]

I believe there is some kind of hormone limits. I heard an announcer mention something about that the other day. Apparently Mx Thomas followed the NCAA rules.

[Horace]

I bet they even have rules against steroids.

[jon-nyc]

@Copper

It’s a bit more controversial than that, The NCAA originally punted and deferred to the national authorities for the various sports. When that came out it included a time restriction that would have eliminated Thomas. So the NCAA did their own rule after all.

[George K]

LOL:

[George K]

[Catseye3]

"Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?"

[jon-nyc]

This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

https://boysvswomen.com/#/

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

https://boysvswomen.com/#/

And those women were Olympic athletes, meaning they were likely juiced...

[George K]

On twitter there is a video of two members of the crowd watching the race, discussing Thomas.

One of them says, "I'm not a veterinarian, but I know what a dog looks like."

[Horace]

Whatever. Anything boys can do, girls can do better. What you're seeing is not the effects of hormones or strength. Sure, directly those are the proximate causes. But the real cause is institutionalized misogyny, which over the generations has caused the hormone gap.

#TestosteroneReparationsForJustice

[Copper]

And why do we only play sports that favor men?

Instead of forcing women to play men's sports, we should also be forcing men to play women's sports.

Then we'll see how those misogyny muscles perform.

[89th]

This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

[George K]

@89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

This is the kind of talk that would get you banned from Facebook, twitter, or, perhaps the US armed forces.

[Axtremus]

@89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

[George K]

@Axtremus IOW, "Build your own league."

[Copper]

The important thing is that nobody should ever be sad again.

Except maybe Mr. Putin.

[LuFins Dad]

This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.