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Watching Lia Thomas win

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  • CopperC Online
    CopperC Online
    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    If the ERA becomes law you won't have to go the trans route.

    Just beat them straight up, no hormones needed.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      Is there any actual current rule that would limit a Lia Thomas sort to just identify as a woman and compete against women? Or is there some sort of rule, an accidental nod to reality, saying the trans woman has to have had hormones or a procedure?

      Education is extremely important.

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      • CopperC Online
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        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        I believe there is some kind of hormone limits. I heard an announcer mention something about that the other day. Apparently Mx Thomas followed the NCAA rules.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          I bet they even have rules against steroids.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • CopperC Copper

            I believe there is some kind of hormone limits. I heard an announcer mention something about that the other day. Apparently Mx Thomas followed the NCAA rules.

            jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #22

            @Copper

            It’s a bit more controversial than that, The NCAA originally punted and deferred to the national authorities for the various sports. When that came out it included a time restriction that would have eliminated Thomas. So the NCAA did their own rule after all.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by George K
              #23

              LOL:

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #24

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • Catseye3C Offline
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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  "Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?"

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #26

                    This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

                    Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

                    https://boysvswomen.com/#/

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

                      Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

                      https://boysvswomen.com/#/

                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @jon-nyc said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                      This site compares high school national champion boys times vs womens Olympic times. Scroll down to the swimming.

                      Seems like 60% greater upper body strength and a larger heart and lungs might just make a difference.

                      https://boysvswomen.com/#/

                      And those women were Olympic athletes, meaning they were likely juiced...

                      The Brad

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        On twitter there is a video of two members of the crowd watching the race, discussing Thomas.

                        One of them says, "I'm not a veterinarian, but I know what a dog looks like."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          Whatever. Anything boys can do, girls can do better. What you're seeing is not the effects of hormones or strength. Sure, directly those are the proximate causes. But the real cause is institutionalized misogyny, which over the generations has caused the hormone gap.

                          #TestosteroneReparationsForJustice

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • CopperC Online
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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            And why do we only play sports that favor men?

                            Instead of forcing women to play men's sports, we should also be forcing men to play women's sports.

                            Then we'll see how those misogyny muscles perform.

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                            • 89th8 Offline
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                              This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

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                                George K
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                                #32

                                @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                                This is the kind of talk that would get you banned from Facebook, twitter, or, perhaps the US armed forces.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  This whole thing is beyond silly. All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                                  AxtremusA Offline
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                                  #33

                                  @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                  All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                                  Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @89th said in Watching Lin Thomas win:

                                    All you have to do is ask why there are separate leagues for men and women. That’s it. It’s not gender, truth, individual, happiness, identity, feelings…it’s simply because of cold, clear, biological differences.

                                    Indeed. There are no lack of sports leaguers that separate athletes by age. Some sports, such as the martial arts, separate the athletes by weight class in addition to gender and age. So if a large enough portion of the world no longer wants to separate athletes by gender anymore, just find some other criteria to separate them so more people with different biological/physical characteristics can win — height, body weight, lung capacity, muscle mass to body fat ratio, whatever.

                                    George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @Axtremus IOW, "Build your own league."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • CopperC Online
                                      CopperC Online
                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #35

                                      The important thing is that nobody should ever be sad again.

                                      Except maybe Mr. Putin.

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

                                        I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          This is feeling more and more like the tipping point on the whole Trans issue. Public opinion seems to be swinging strongly back against TG athletes, which will put more pressure on the NCAA and other sports regulatory groups. There is also a lot more pushback with what parents are discovering has been going on in their kid’s school curriculum.

                                          I see the NCAA and HS Athletics reversing course on the issue in the not too distant future. The question is how does the Trans community respond? If they react with the typical tantrum and threats that they’ve been known for, I think you’ll see a much larger public pushback and the community will lose many of the gains they have achieved over the last 10 years.

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                                          Catseye3
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @LuFins-Dad

                                          👍 I've had similar thoughts, LuFin. The more annoying Liu Thomas stories emerge, the sooner the penny will drop.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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