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    Mik
    wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:23 last edited by
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    Watching the local coverage now. The majority of those being arrested are white. You can tell now, on the fourth straight night, that the cops have had about enough of this. SWAT is carrying assault weapons, not rubber bullets. They were getting on the news crews too.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      2 Jun 2020, 00:23

      Watching the local coverage now. The majority of those being arrested are white. You can tell now, on the fourth straight night, that the cops have had about enough of this. SWAT is carrying assault weapons, not rubber bullets. They were getting on the news crews too.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:26 last edited by
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      @Mik said in Not a riot:

      Watching the local coverage now. The majority of those being arrested are white. You can tell now, on the fourth straight night, that the cops have had about enough of this. SWAT is carrying assault weapons, not rubber bullets. They were getting on the news crews too.

      We're soon going to see if these crowds are just trying to push the envelope because of boredom, silly liberal activism, whatever, or if they're genuinely pissed.

      It must be said that the vast majority of protesters are being civil, and there are many stories of protesters and officers alike trying to police their own.

      Still, though. Shit. SHOW.

      Please love yourself.

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        Mik
        wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:30 last edited by
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        Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has. The problem here is there is really little or nothing to be gained by continuing. The cop has been charged. All they are doing now is hardening public sentiment.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Larry
          wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:30 last edited by
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          It's time to start killing them.

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            Mik
            wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:32 last edited by
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            No, its not. Not right after the 50th anniversary of Kent State.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              2 Jun 2020, 00:30

              It's time to start killing them.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:34 last edited by
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              @Larry said in Not a riot:

              It's time to start killing them.

              Cop in (I believe) St Louis was bitched out and almost beaten down by a colleague after he threw a woman down unnecessarily. And here in DC last night, protesters stopped a jackass trying to light a molotov and held him until the police could take him away.

              Fires and smashing windows creates great TV but I don't think that's what most people want.

              Please love yourself.

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                Larry
                wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:36 last edited by
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                As I said in another thread, I'm not talking about the protesters. You aren't separating the two groups.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:38 last edited by
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                  One needs the other to get away with their crimes.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Larry
                    wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:43 last edited by
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                    I think the police are able to tell the difference between a peaceful boy or girl walking down the street holding a sign and a thug smashing windows with a board.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 00:54 last edited by 89th 6 Feb 2020, 00:54
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                      Today on an evening walk with my 2-year old daughter we passed 3 cops in their cars sitting in a Target parking lot. Obviously on standby, although we are a few miles on the other side of the river from DC. I approached and they were very sweet with my daughter, turning on the police lights for her after I told them she loves watching for "wee-oohs wee oohs" (her siren sound). They also gave her a police badge sticker.

                      I told them what I honestly was thinking about today, which is it sucks there's not an easier way to display my support for the officers during these events. I told them they deserve way more respect than they are being shown, but (as expected) they shrugged it off and just said this is how things get sometimes. The good guys. It old them to stay safe, and they joked they just hope the mayhem stays in DC.

                      FWIW, I have someone close to me who's in law enforcement who is changing careers (decided last year, before all this crap started recently) because he's tired of the constant harassment received by many citizens. He doesn't write tickets, and is the nicest guy in the world, yet he has to deal with the scum of the earth (drug dealers, domestic violence, deaths after a car wreck) and what he gets for it is often public ignorance and insults.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:00 last edited by
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                        Lots of progressives go around saying that unless you're oppressed you can't possibly know the lived experience of being oppressed, and you cannot judge. But I think the lived experience that would be most at odds with people's imaginations would be that of police officers doing what they do every day. I really don't think most of us have any foggy idea about that lived experience and what it takes to navigate it smoothly.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:01 last edited by
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                          That's cool that you did that, 89th.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            2 Jun 2020, 01:01

                            That's cool that you did that, 89th.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:10 last edited by
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                            @Horace said in Not a riot:

                            That's cool that you did that, 89th.

                            Yeah, good on ya!

                            When I go on my walks in town, I see police cruisers all the time. I make a point of waving to them, and have before all this shit started. I think they appreciate it.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:20 last edited by
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                              Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                2 Jun 2020, 01:20

                                Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:31 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                                Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.

                                (Cheap) Scotch all over my keyboard.

                                It's OK, I was gonna get a new one anyway.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Rainman
                                  wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 01:46 last edited by
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                                  WHAT DO WE WANT!
                                  ??
                                  WHEN DO WE WANT IT!
                                  NOW!!!

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                                    1 Jun 2020, 00:38

                                    Suspended account on Twitter, but the internet is, as they say, forever:

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 02:47 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Not a riot:

                                    Suspended account on Twitter, but the internet is, as they say, forever:

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                                    White nationalists posing, says Twitter.

                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 15:00 last edited by
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                                      Tricky

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                                      • M Mik
                                        2 Jun 2020, 00:30

                                        Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has. The problem here is there is really little or nothing to be gained by continuing. The cop has been charged. All they are doing now is hardening public sentiment.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 19:05 last edited by
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                                        @Mik said in Not a riot:

                                        Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                                        Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                                        There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                                        If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                                        I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

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                                        • T taiwan_girl
                                          2 Jun 2020, 19:05

                                          @Mik said in Not a riot:

                                          Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                                          Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                                          There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                                          If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                                          I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 2 Jun 2020, 19:12 last edited by
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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

                                          @Mik said in Not a riot:

                                          Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                                          Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                                          There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                                          If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                                          I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

                                          Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.

                                          The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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