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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by
    #93

    As I said in another thread, I'm not talking about the protesters. You aren't separating the two groups.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      #94

      One needs the other to get away with their crimes.

      Please love yourself.

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      • LarryL Offline
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        Larry
        wrote on last edited by
        #95

        I think the police are able to tell the difference between a peaceful boy or girl walking down the street holding a sign and a thug smashing windows with a board.

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        • 89th8 Online
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          89th
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          #96

          Today on an evening walk with my 2-year old daughter we passed 3 cops in their cars sitting in a Target parking lot. Obviously on standby, although we are a few miles on the other side of the river from DC. I approached and they were very sweet with my daughter, turning on the police lights for her after I told them she loves watching for "wee-oohs wee oohs" (her siren sound). They also gave her a police badge sticker.

          I told them what I honestly was thinking about today, which is it sucks there's not an easier way to display my support for the officers during these events. I told them they deserve way more respect than they are being shown, but (as expected) they shrugged it off and just said this is how things get sometimes. The good guys. It old them to stay safe, and they joked they just hope the mayhem stays in DC.

          FWIW, I have someone close to me who's in law enforcement who is changing careers (decided last year, before all this crap started recently) because he's tired of the constant harassment received by many citizens. He doesn't write tickets, and is the nicest guy in the world, yet he has to deal with the scum of the earth (drug dealers, domestic violence, deaths after a car wreck) and what he gets for it is often public ignorance and insults.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #97

            Lots of progressives go around saying that unless you're oppressed you can't possibly know the lived experience of being oppressed, and you cannot judge. But I think the lived experience that would be most at odds with people's imaginations would be that of police officers doing what they do every day. I really don't think most of us have any foggy idea about that lived experience and what it takes to navigate it smoothly.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #98

              That's cool that you did that, 89th.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                That's cool that you did that, 89th.

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                George K
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                #99

                @Horace said in Not a riot:

                That's cool that you did that, 89th.

                Yeah, good on ya!

                When I go on my walks in town, I see police cruisers all the time. I make a point of waving to them, and have before all this shit started. I think they appreciate it.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  #100

                  Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #101

                    @jon-nyc said in Not a riot:

                    Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.

                    (Cheap) Scotch all over my keyboard.

                    It's OK, I was gonna get a new one anyway.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • RainmanR Offline
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                      Rainman
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                      #102

                      WHAT DO WE WANT!
                      ??
                      WHEN DO WE WANT IT!
                      NOW!!!

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                      • George KG George K

                        Suspended account on Twitter, but the internet is, as they say, forever:

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                        jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        @George-K said in Not a riot:

                        Suspended account on Twitter, but the internet is, as they say, forever:

                        alt text

                        White nationalists posing, says Twitter.

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-disinformation-bot-behavior-n1221456

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          #104

                          Tricky

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has. The problem here is there is really little or nothing to be gained by continuing. The cop has been charged. All they are doing now is hardening public sentiment.

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                            @Mik said in Not a riot:

                            Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                            Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                            There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                            If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                            I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Mik said in Not a riot:

                              Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                              Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                              There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                              If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                              I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

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                              Horace
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                              @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

                              @Mik said in Not a riot:

                              Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                              Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                              There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                              If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                              I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

                              Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.

                              The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:

                                @Mik said in Not a riot:

                                Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.

                                Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.

                                There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.

                                If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.

                                I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.

                                Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.

                                The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #107

                                @Horace said in Not a riot:

                                The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.

                                Sorry, but I dont understand this. LOL

                                But in trying to, I interpret it to mean that most people are not effected or have not had a direct impact from the situation. If that is what you are saying, I agree with you. LOL

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #108

                                  Right, that's what I meant.

                                  I have heard it termed cleverly as "the demand for racism far exceeds the supply".

                                  But of course, saying that sort of thing in this ephemeral social climate around this Greg Floyd thing would get you socially excommunicated from polite company.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • LarryL Offline
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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #109

                                    I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                                    The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                                      #110

                                      This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.

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                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • LarryL Larry

                                        I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                                        The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #111

                                        @Larry said in Not a riot:

                                        I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.

                                        The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.

                                        Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.

                                        But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #112

                                          And it will be with us as long as there are races. Or redheads and brunettes. or tall and short.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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