Not a riot
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Lots of progressives go around saying that unless you're oppressed you can't possibly know the lived experience of being oppressed, and you cannot judge. But I think the lived experience that would be most at odds with people's imaginations would be that of police officers doing what they do every day. I really don't think most of us have any foggy idea about that lived experience and what it takes to navigate it smoothly.
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@Horace said in Not a riot:
That's cool that you did that, 89th.
Yeah, good on ya!
When I go on my walks in town, I see police cruisers all the time. I make a point of waving to them, and have before all this shit started. I think they appreciate it.
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@George-K said in Not a riot:
Suspended account on Twitter, but the internet is, as they say, forever:
White nationalists posing, says Twitter.
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Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has. The problem here is there is really little or nothing to be gained by continuing. The cop has been charged. All they are doing now is hardening public sentiment.
@Mik said in Not a riot:
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.
Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.
There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.
If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.
I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.
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@Mik said in Not a riot:
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.
Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.
There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.
If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.
I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.
@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Mik said in Not a riot:
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.
Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.
There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.
If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.
I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.
Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.
The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.
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@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Mik said in Not a riot:
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.
Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.
There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.
If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.
I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.
Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.
The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.
@Horace said in Not a riot:
The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.
Sorry, but I dont understand this. LOL
But in trying to, I interpret it to mean that most people are not effected or have not had a direct impact from the situation. If that is what you are saying, I agree with you. LOL
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Right, that's what I meant.
I have heard it termed cleverly as "the demand for racism far exceeds the supply".
But of course, saying that sort of thing in this ephemeral social climate around this Greg Floyd thing would get you socially excommunicated from polite company.
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I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
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This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.
Please love yourself.
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I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Not a riot:
This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.
Got any more to that narrative? Had they been told to clear the area? Was the old guy being a disobedient asshole? What's the background?
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@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
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@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Jolly said in Not a riot:
@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
I am not sure of the exact definition of racism, but I see that the US has a lot of segregation, and is probably still as segregated as many years ago.
As I said before, some (alot) of this is due to a persons own choice, but I am not sure it is a good thing. As long as people have segregation, it is very difficult to understand the other side, and that leads to problems such as are having in the US cities right now.
(I will add that this is not necessary only a US thing. I have seen it around teh world.)
It's not an American thing, it's a people thing. Like likes like. I find nothing wrong with that. OTOH, if you want to fall in love with some blonde Swedish guy, I hope you have six kids and a wonderful life.
Racism exists, but it's not worth hunting for things that aren't really what I would consider racist.
