Not a riot
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@Larry said in Not a riot:
It's time to start killing them.
Cop in (I believe) St Louis was bitched out and almost beaten down by a colleague after he threw a woman down unnecessarily. And here in DC last night, protesters stopped a jackass trying to light a molotov and held him until the police could take him away.
Fires and smashing windows creates great TV but I don't think that's what most people want.
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One needs the other to get away with their crimes.
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Today on an evening walk with my 2-year old daughter we passed 3 cops in their cars sitting in a Target parking lot. Obviously on standby, although we are a few miles on the other side of the river from DC. I approached and they were very sweet with my daughter, turning on the police lights for her after I told them she loves watching for "wee-oohs wee oohs" (her siren sound). They also gave her a police badge sticker.
I told them what I honestly was thinking about today, which is it sucks there's not an easier way to display my support for the officers during these events. I told them they deserve way more respect than they are being shown, but (as expected) they shrugged it off and just said this is how things get sometimes. The good guys. It old them to stay safe, and they joked they just hope the mayhem stays in DC.
FWIW, I have someone close to me who's in law enforcement who is changing careers (decided last year, before all this crap started recently) because he's tired of the constant harassment received by many citizens. He doesn't write tickets, and is the nicest guy in the world, yet he has to deal with the scum of the earth (drug dealers, domestic violence, deaths after a car wreck) and what he gets for it is often public ignorance and insults.
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Lots of progressives go around saying that unless you're oppressed you can't possibly know the lived experience of being oppressed, and you cannot judge. But I think the lived experience that would be most at odds with people's imaginations would be that of police officers doing what they do every day. I really don't think most of us have any foggy idea about that lived experience and what it takes to navigate it smoothly.
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Education is extremely important.
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@Horace said in Not a riot:
That's cool that you did that, 89th.
Yeah, good on ya!
When I go on my walks in town, I see police cruisers all the time. I make a point of waving to them, and have before all this shit started. I think they appreciate it.
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Just as long as you’re using all 5 fingers.
DON’T let them eat cake.
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@George-K said in Not a riot:
Suspended account on Twitter, but the internet is, as they say, forever:
White nationalists posing, says Twitter.
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@Mik said in Not a riot:
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.
Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.
There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.
If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.
I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.
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@taiwan_girl said in Not a riot:
@Mik said in Not a riot:
Just hoping it doesn’t get uglier than it has.
Just my opinion, but I dont think it will. My feeling is that the anger is not slow burning for most, just for a few. Many people who are protesting are not really effected by this, and I think that their energy will burn out rather quickly. It takes alot of energy to do this.
There is not a critical mass of people with slow burning anger to make this last.
If you contrast to the recent protests in HK - there they had a million people in the streets day after day after day. There is a slow anger among a critical mass of people that can enable a protest like that to continue for a long time.
I just dont see that in the US. The average white person who goes to protest will keep it up for one day, maybe two or three, but then, they will move on to something else.
Good points about the slow burning anger stuff.
The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.
Education is extremely important.
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@Horace said in Not a riot:
The reason we don't have a critical mass of slow burners is because in fact most people have lived their lives starved for personal observations that coincide with the narrative.
Sorry, but I dont understand this. LOL
But in trying to, I interpret it to mean that most people are not effected or have not had a direct impact from the situation. If that is what you are saying, I agree with you. LOL
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Right, that's what I meant.
I have heard it termed cleverly as "the demand for racism far exceeds the supply".
But of course, saying that sort of thing in this ephemeral social climate around this Greg Floyd thing would get you socially excommunicated from polite company.
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I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
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This in Salt Lake City. Police used their riot shields to knock down an old guy with a cane. There was one other person ahead of him; area was otherwise empty. They walked away after they knocked him down.
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@Larry said in Not a riot:
I live in the South. I keep hearing how racist the South is, so if there's a problem with racism then surely it would be seen here.
The only racism I ever see is when I turn on the TV and some news person tells me America is a racist country. After I turn off the TV the racism is gone again.
Oh, there's racism. In the white community. In the black community. Shucks, even the Vietnamese community here, discouraged their girls from dating black guys. Or white guys. Or even the Mexican guys.
But it's just everyday crap, not even worth noticing, for the most part.
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