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Neil Young: "Rogan or me."

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  • R Renauda
    27 Jan 2022, 01:41

    @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

    Neil Old, amirite

    Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

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    George K
    wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:29 last edited by
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    @renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

    Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

    I read, somewhere, that he's sold his song catalog. I wonder what control over distribution he retained.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      27 Jan 2022, 00:59

      Ann Althouse:

      "Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.

      So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:44 last edited by
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      @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

      So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

      She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

      Please love yourself.

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        27 Jan 2022, 15:44

        @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

        So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

        She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

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        Mik
        wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:52 last edited by
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        @aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

        @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

        So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

        She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

        Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          27 Jan 2022, 15:52

          @aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

          @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

          So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

          She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

          Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:53 last edited by
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          @mik said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

          She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

          Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

          Or Fortunate Son. 😄

          Please love yourself.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 28 Jan 2022, 10:47 last edited by
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            Only non-witches get due process.

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              28 Jan 2022, 10:47

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              89th
              wrote on 28 Jan 2022, 13:21 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

              That would be good for all parties involved.

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                Ivorythumper
                wrote on 28 Jan 2022, 18:32 last edited by
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                neil young.JPG

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                  George K
                  wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 01:20 last edited by
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                  OK, now this is getting serious.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 02:32 last edited by
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                    😆

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      bachophile
                      wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 05:14 last edited by
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                      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html

                      Joni has now joined Neil.

                      Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.

                      What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

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                        29 Jan 2022, 05:14

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html

                        Joni has now joined Neil.

                        Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.

                        What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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                        @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                        Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                        Indeed.

                        Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

                        Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 12:26 last edited by
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                          Neil has removed the original letter, by the way.

                          He put up a new one: "https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-More-Songs-Less-Sound"

                          He talks about the sound quality of Spotify's streaming, and in the last paragraph, he says,

                          "I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship."

                          OK then.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 13:35 last edited by George K
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                            https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

                            There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              29 Jan 2022, 13:35

                              https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

                              There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:02 last edited by
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                              @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                              https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

                              There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

                              That's why I always preferred to be in the background, and work for the suits instead of the artists themselves. Artists that aren't touring, or writing their own songs better love being famous, because that's their biggest reward. I'd rather have just a piece of the writer royalties and no one ever know who I am than to be famous s a performer of other people's songs.

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                              • G George K
                                29 Jan 2022, 12:21

                                @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                                Indeed.

                                Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

                                Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:11 last edited by
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                                @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

                                Indeed.

                                Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

                                Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

                                Spotify isn't the one who determined how royalties work, or how a given artist has structured his business. As for Neil Young, he should be grateful he ever made a dime in his life. Same for Frampton. Other than "do you feel" where he introduced the public to the wonders of the Voice Box, he didn't have much. If someone who is still getting airplay pulled this stunt Spotify's reaction might be different. But Young and Frampton??? Nah...

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:22 last edited by
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                                  Government official calls for censorship:

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:25 last edited by
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                                    Yeah, and that's part of a surgeon general's job, huh....

                                    The entire Biden administration is made up of the worst kinds of fools.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:44 last edited by
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                                      Actually, he didn't specify Rogan, but said that tech should prevent the spread of misinformation.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:59 last edited by
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                                        As I said, the Ministry of Truth. Coming to a neighborhood near you, and right soon.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 15:33 last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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