Neil Young: "Rogan or me."
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wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:18 last edited by
Hay! Neil!
It's all about the $$$$$.
Who brings more revenue to Spotify?
That's what I thought.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:59 last edited by
Ann Althouse:
"Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.
So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."
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wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 01:41 last edited by
@89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Neil Old, amirite
Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.
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wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:19 last edited by
'Old man, look at your life....."
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@89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Neil Old, amirite
Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.
wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:21 last edited by@renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Neil Old, amirite
Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.
I suspect so. But then we all have diminished filters as we get older and I imaginet most of us do not have quite as open-minded (read inexperienced) view of the world as we did when younger.
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@89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Neil Old, amirite
Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.
wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:29 last edited by@renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.
I read, somewhere, that he's sold his song catalog. I wonder what control over distribution he retained.
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Ann Althouse:
"Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.
So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."
wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:44 last edited by@george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."
She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.
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@george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."
She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.
wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:52 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."
She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.
Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.
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@aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."
She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.
Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.
wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:53 last edited by@mik said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.
Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.
Or Fortunate Son.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html
Joni has now joined Neil.
Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.
What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html
Joni has now joined Neil.
Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.
What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.
wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 12:21 last edited by@bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Would be an Interesting social media experiment.
Indeed.
Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.
Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 12:26 last edited by
Neil has removed the original letter, by the way.
He put up a new one: "https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-More-Songs-Less-Sound"
He talks about the sound quality of Spotify's streaming, and in the last paragraph, he says,
"I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship."
OK then.
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wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 13:35 last edited by George K
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html
There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.
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https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html
There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.
wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:02 last edited by@george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html
There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.
That's why I always preferred to be in the background, and work for the suits instead of the artists themselves. Artists that aren't touring, or writing their own songs better love being famous, because that's their biggest reward. I'd rather have just a piece of the writer royalties and no one ever know who I am than to be famous s a performer of other people's songs.
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@bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Would be an Interesting social media experiment.
Indeed.
Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.
Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.
wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:11 last edited by@george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
@bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":
Would be an Interesting social media experiment.
Indeed.
Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.
Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.
Spotify isn't the one who determined how royalties work, or how a given artist has structured his business. As for Neil Young, he should be grateful he ever made a dime in his life. Same for Frampton. Other than "do you feel" where he introduced the public to the wonders of the Voice Box, he didn't have much. If someone who is still getting airplay pulled this stunt Spotify's reaction might be different. But Young and Frampton??? Nah...