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Neil Young: "Rogan or me."

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    bachophile
    wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 05:14 last edited by
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html

    Joni has now joined Neil.

    Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.

    What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

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      29 Jan 2022, 05:14

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/arts/joni-mitchell-neil-young-spotify.html

      Joni has now joined Neil.

      Honestly I don’t care one way or the other as what’s not on Spotify I can get on Apple Music.

      What I would like to see if now an avalanche of classic stars follow suit and see if they can break Spotify’s will to fight. Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

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      George K
      wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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      @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

      Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

      Indeed.

      Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

      Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 12:26 last edited by
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        Neil has removed the original letter, by the way.

        He put up a new one: "https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-More-Songs-Less-Sound"

        He talks about the sound quality of Spotify's streaming, and in the last paragraph, he says,

        "I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship."

        OK then.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 13:35 last edited by George K
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          https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

          There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            29 Jan 2022, 13:35

            https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

            There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

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            Larry
            wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:02 last edited by
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            @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

            https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/01/frampton-comes-cropper.html

            There's interesting stuff about royalties in this story which @Larry might find interesting.

            That's why I always preferred to be in the background, and work for the suits instead of the artists themselves. Artists that aren't touring, or writing their own songs better love being famous, because that's their biggest reward. I'd rather have just a piece of the writer royalties and no one ever know who I am than to be famous s a performer of other people's songs.

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              29 Jan 2022, 12:21

              @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

              Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

              Indeed.

              Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

              Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

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              Larry
              wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:11 last edited by
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              @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

              @bachophile said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

              Would be an Interesting social media experiment.

              Indeed.

              Some little part of me says that Spotify has the interest of the artists at heart, but it is the revenue from Rogan that puts food in its belly.

              Like you said, I don't care either way, but I'll make some popcorn.

              Spotify isn't the one who determined how royalties work, or how a given artist has structured his business. As for Neil Young, he should be grateful he ever made a dime in his life. Same for Frampton. Other than "do you feel" where he introduced the public to the wonders of the Voice Box, he didn't have much. If someone who is still getting airplay pulled this stunt Spotify's reaction might be different. But Young and Frampton??? Nah...

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                George K
                wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:22 last edited by
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                Government official calls for censorship:

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:25 last edited by
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                  Yeah, and that's part of a surgeon general's job, huh....

                  The entire Biden administration is made up of the worst kinds of fools.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:44 last edited by
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                    Actually, he didn't specify Rogan, but said that tech should prevent the spread of misinformation.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 14:59 last edited by
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                      As I said, the Ministry of Truth. Coming to a neighborhood near you, and right soon.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 15:33 last edited by
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 15:36 last edited by
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                          That’s good.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 16:20 last edited by
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                            So Mitchell and Young were fine with sharing a platform with sex traffickers, sexual predators, domestic abusers, and more... But somebody that recommended taking a relatively safe drug that has conflicting reports on efficacy is a bridge too far for them?

                            The Brad

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 12:23 last edited by
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                              And in other free enterprise news, Sirius/XM is debuting a Neil Young channel.

                              Any publicity is good publicity, I guess.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 12:41 last edited by
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                                The dude has some great tunes. I’ll give him that.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  30 Jan 2022, 12:41

                                  The dude has some great tunes. I’ll give him that.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 12:47 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                  The dude has some great tunes. I’ll give him that.

                                  Indeed. I could never stand his voice. The only album I could listen to was Harvest Moon.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 13:00 last edited by
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                                    I like him. He's done some very inventive stuff at times when it went against the grain. Very distinctive guitar style.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 13:18 last edited by
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                                      And Jimmy Fallon does a good impression.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 13:20 last edited by
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                                        Joe Rogan is on XM… Just Sayin’

                                        The Brad

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                                          30 Jan 2022, 13:18

                                          And Jimmy Fallon does a good impression.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 13:34 last edited by
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                                          @jolly said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                          And Jimmy Fallon does a good impression.

                                          I remember that. Exceptional.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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