RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/04/it-is-time-to-break-up-the-presidential-debate-monopoly/
Last year, the RNC’s McDaniel sent a letter to the CPD outlining several changes it wanted the commission to make. They included adopting term limits for its board, making its meetings more transparent, and prohibiting board members from making public comments about any candidates (six of its ten board members have publicly criticized Trump). She also called for disqualifying debate moderators “who have apparent conflicts of interest due to personal, professional, or partisan factors.”
Perhaps the most relevant request for voters was a request that at least one debate should take place before the start of early voting. In 2020, more than half the states had begun early voting before Biden and Trump met for their first debate. Overseas and military voting had already begun in all 50 states.
Commission co-chairman Frank Fahrenkopf told the Washington Post earlier this year that negotiations with the RNC had broken down because it “wanted to control things we aren’t prepared to let them control.”
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
Please love yourself.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/04/it-is-time-to-break-up-the-presidential-debate-monopoly/
Last year, the RNC’s McDaniel sent a letter to the CPD outlining several changes it wanted the commission to make. They included adopting term limits for its board, making its meetings more transparent, and prohibiting board members from making public comments about any candidates (six of its ten board members have publicly criticized Trump). She also called for disqualifying debate moderators “who have apparent conflicts of interest due to personal, professional, or partisan factors.”
Perhaps the most relevant request for voters was a request that at least one debate should take place before the start of early voting. In 2020, more than half the states had begun early voting before Biden and Trump met for their first debate. Overseas and military voting had already begun in all 50 states.
Commission co-chairman Frank Fahrenkopf told the Washington Post earlier this year that negotiations with the RNC had broken down because it “wanted to control things we aren’t prepared to let them control.”
@George-K said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
She also called for disqualifying debate moderators “who have apparent conflicts of interest due to personal, professional, or partisan factors.”
Is there a debate moderator acceptable to the democrats who does not have "apparent conflicts of interest due to personal, professional, or partisan factors.”?
Doubtful
Screw 'em.
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Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
@Aqua-Letifer said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
Though they’re one of the few opportunities candidates have to change the momentum of the race.
In the very short term, this is good news for Biden if he runs again.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@Aqua-Letifer said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
Though they’re one of the few opportunities candidates have to change the momentum of the race.
In the very short term, this is good news for Biden if he runs again.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
Though they’re one of the few opportunities candidates have to change the momentum of the race.
In the very short term, this is good news for Biden if he runs again.
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@Aqua-Letifer said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
Though they’re one of the few opportunities candidates have to change the momentum of the race.
The new process, whatever it is, will not just be "old process - debates." Other things will change as a result of this.
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@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@Aqua-Letifer said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Good. The "debates" have been a joke for years.
Though they’re one of the few opportunities candidates have to change the momentum of the race.
The new process, whatever it is, will not just be "old process - debates." Other things will change as a result of this.
@Aqua-Letifer said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
The new process, whatever it is, will not just be "old process - debates." Other things will change as a result of this.
Maybe Elon will run around tweeting debate challenges to Presidential candidates.
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Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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Funny I used to read his podcast titles as they came out. I would recognize maybe 1 in 20 guest names since I don’t follow stand-up comedy or MMA. But I listened to many of the guests I recognized.
But now he’s behind a paywall
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Funny I used to read his podcast titles as they came out. I would recognize maybe 1 in 20 guest names since I don’t follow stand-up comedy or MMA. But I listened to many of the guests I recognized.
But now he’s behind a paywall
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
But now he’s behind a paywall
From now on all my TNCR comments will be behind a paywall. I'm not giving it away anymore like Aqua's Sister.
Venmo or Zelle.
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@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
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@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
Education is extremely important.
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@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
The only difference is one of new vs establishment media. Debates should be on NBC and not a podcast because they always have been.
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- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
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- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
@Jolly said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
- No moderators
- A timekeeper and a large traffic signal light everyone can see, Green for 3 minutes, Yellow for 30 seconds to wrap up, and Red - that’s when your microphone is OFF to prevent unwarranted interruption.
3)Take the top ten issues and let the candidates ask the other a question related to that issue. Allow the 3.5 minute response, then the questioner gets a 1 minute rebuttal. The you go to the other candidate to pose a question on the same topic. - 10 topics at 4.5 minutes each or 9 minutes per topic.
And use technology to scramble any cheating, such as in-ear devices, etc. They each can bring hand-written notes and are allowed a scratch pad.
Is the RNC demanding those changes?
Regardless, I am OK with the first four points.
As for the last point about scrambling in-ear devices, etc. to prevent cheating. I have two problem with this:
(1) there is no evidence of cheating, and if the final candidates who won their respective primaries are such petty cheaters, we as a nation and as a people have much bigger problems than cheating on televised debates.
(2) Running the executive branch of the nation is not a one-person job. It is a team effort. It is arguable that it is even more important for the leader to be able to assemble and inspire a team of very smart people to work towards a coherent set of goals than it is for the leader to be personally very smart him/herself. So I would prefer the leading candidates all debate with their full team of support staff and subject matter experts on deck running fact-checking and feeding them facts and statistics and tactical information during debate. It makes no sense to vote for a leader based on who can memorize more factual information that can be easily Googled these days. Lets see the combined intellect of his/her whole team.
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@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
@Horace said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@89th said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
@jon-nyc said in RNC to boycott Debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates:
Joe Rogan will invite both candidates to have a four hour discussion.
Sadly I think this is the direction we are heading over the next decade or two. I actually would pay good money too... but I feel like we are heading towards Idiocracy...
What is sad about the idea of a long form discussions with politicians, a la Joe Rogan?
It's sad that we are unable, it seems, to have formal, civil, debates. Or sad that long form discussions would be held by someone who is a comedian and previous host of a show that required contestants to eat live cockroaches. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good conversation/facilitator on his show, but again... Idiocracy, watch it. Our society should have higher standards.
@Jolly I like that format, especially the mic being cut off when it's not your turn to speak. I doubt the candidates would stick to the topics though if no moderator was present.
