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  • MikM Mik

    Test supplies and kits are running short. What happened to Joe invoking the war powers act to make them manufacture enough?

    He’s too damn focused on using our money to buy votes.

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    @mik said in The White House Warns Us:

    Test supplies and kits are running short.

    As I said in another thread:

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      D4 drove to Northwestern to get some bloodwork done.

      The lines (drive through and walk-up) for testing were beyond belief. Like "around the block" beyond belief.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • 89th8 89th

        I bet if Trump had said this, which would've match his unfiltered approach (most of the time I appreciated), MAGA country would be cheering this on as unfiltered honesty.

        Which is what it is.

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        @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

        I bet if Trump had said this, which would've match his unfiltered approach (most of the time I appreciated), MAGA country would be cheering this on as unfiltered honesty.

        Which is what it is.

        Absolute horseshit..

        Was a lot gloomier with the original virus, or don't you remember? And Trump said nothing of the kind.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Tucker went after the Winter of Death speech tonight

          There are now more covid deaths under Mr. Biden with the vaccine than under Mr. Trump without the vaccine

          There have been zero deaths in the US from the Omicron variant

          Go watch Tucker, it is really fun

          I like when he plays those quick-cut things that show every cnn anchor saying the same catch-phrase

          Today all the cnn people (there must have been at least a dozen on different cnn shows) used the phrase 'viral blizzard'

          As in, OMG! A viral blizzard is about to hit the US!

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          • CopperC Copper

            Tucker went after the Winter of Death speech tonight

            There are now more covid deaths under Mr. Biden with the vaccine than under Mr. Trump without the vaccine

            There have been zero deaths in the US from the Omicron variant

            Go watch Tucker, it is really fun

            I like when he plays those quick-cut things that show every cnn anchor saying the same catch-phrase

            Today all the cnn people (there must have been at least a dozen on different cnn shows) used the phrase 'viral blizzard'

            As in, OMG! A viral blizzard is about to hit the US!

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            @copper said in The White House Warns Us:

            There have been zero deaths in the US from the Omicron variant

            Not any more

            One confirmed death from Omicron today

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            • LarryL Larry

              @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

              @larry said in The White House Warns Us:

              First, Trump wouldn't have said it.

              You're right. It needs a few more exclamation points and nickname insults.

              Second, tell me what problems it is you have with "MAGA country"...

              Did I say I had problems? What I said is had Trump said this, there would be those (who criticize it) who would praise its brutal honesty.

              Then if that was all you said, why did you takes the time and effort to sneer at the "MAGA" crowd? You don't even see your own bias. "If Trump had said it" his no reason to write what you wrote, because it's a false premise. Trump WOULDNT have said it. The very fact that he wouldn't have said it in the first place makes your entire point ridiculoys.

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              @larry said in The White House Warns Us:

              Then if that was all you said, why did you takes the time and effort to sneer at the "MAGA" crowd?

              How did I sneer? All I said is the MAGA crowd would've cheered such a brutally honest comment. If anything, it's a compliment that the MAGA cohort likes the unfiltered, politically incorrect, approach. I like it, too.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

                I bet if Trump had said this, which would've match his unfiltered approach (most of the time I appreciated), MAGA country would be cheering this on as unfiltered honesty.

                Which is what it is.

                Absolute horseshit..

                Was a lot gloomier with the original virus, or don't you remember? And Trump said nothing of the kind.

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                @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                Was a lot gloomier with the original virus, or don't you remember? And Trump said nothing of the kind.

                Well the vaccine wasn't out for the masses yet in Dec 2020. But had it been, and had Trump said something of the kind, it probably would've saved lives. Then again, in Dec 2020 Trump was focused on something else...

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                  BTW I had my very first COVID test today. I've done a bit of business travel the past week and wanted to get checked out before being around family (especially older relatives). Did a drive-thru PCR test at a CVS, should find out in a day or two. No symptoms, just being careful. Oh, no line either... I found it pretty easy to book an appointment via the Minnesota health website.

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                    Or, you're very early in the process, without enough circulating copies to ping the test. 😊

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                      QUOTE
                      In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                      UNQUOTE

                      I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                      Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                        QUOTE
                        In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                        UNQUOTE

                        I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                        Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                        What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                        QUOTE
                        In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                        UNQUOTE

                        I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                        Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

                        Incorrect?

                        Because it's bullshit.

                        Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                          What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                          QUOTE
                          In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                          UNQUOTE

                          I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                          Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

                          Incorrect?

                          Because it's bullshit.

                          Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

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                          AxtremusA Away
                          Axtremus
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                          @Jolly wrote:

                          Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                          Infections or hospitalization?
                          Either way, that means 90%+ of cases are not breakthrough, 90%+ of cases hit the unvaccinated.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                            What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                            QUOTE
                            In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                            UNQUOTE

                            I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                            Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

                            Incorrect?

                            Because it's bullshit.

                            Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

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                            @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                            Incorrect?
                            Because it's bullshit.
                            Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                            So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                            I was only joking

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                              @Axtremus @Doctor-Phibes Agree, That was my point. It is one thing to have COVID and be mild or no symptoms.

                              Another stage all together to be in the hospital.

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                                @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                Incorrect?
                                Because it's bullshit.
                                Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

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                                @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

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                                  @Jolly wrote:

                                  Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                  Infections or hospitalization?
                                  Either way, that means 90%+ of cases are not breakthrough, 90%+ of cases hit the unvaccinated.

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                                  @axtremus said in The White House Warns Us:

                                  @Jolly wrote:

                                  Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                  Infections or hospitalization?
                                  Either way, that means 90%+ of cases are not breakthrough, 90%+ of cases hit the unvaccinated.

                                  Hospitalization.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                    So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                    Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                    Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

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                                    @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                    So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                    Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                    Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

                                    You like the government waaay too much to be conservative, other than the typical beltway crap.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                      Incorrect?
                                      Because it's bullshit.
                                      Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                      So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

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                                      @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                      @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                      Incorrect?
                                      Because it's bullshit.
                                      Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                      So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                      That's not what the statement or the graph says. Relick your calf.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                        So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                        Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                        Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

                                        You like the government waaay too much to be conservative, other than the typical beltway crap.

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                                        @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                        You like the government waaay too much to be conservative, other than the typical beltway crap.

                                        What claims have I made that imply I like the government? What I like, in this case, is the government being clear in the messaging about how we can get past this pandemic. What I don't like are the continued mask mandates, COVID waves, and deaths across the country. Politics has nothing to do with this. I'd be saying the same thing if Trump sent this message.

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                                          What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                                          QUOTE
                                          In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                                          UNQUOTE

                                          It’s poor and misleading statistical analysis for one. Let’s say that EVERY SINGLE PERSON that is hospitalized is unvaccinated (and we know that’s not true) then .065% of the unvaccinated are hospitalized with COVID.

                                          The way it’s presented makes it seem like 99.9975% of the hospitalizations are unvaccinated and we know that’s simply not true. The real number is likely around 20%. And yes, @Doctor-Phibes that means that 30% of the population represents 80% of the hospitalizations. Obviously vaccination helps. Just not at the levels that we are being led to believe.

                                          I’ notice that they’re are also not pointing out that that 80% or more of the hospitalized are elderly.

                                          The Brad

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