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  • 8 89th
    20 Dec 2021, 21:41

    @larry said in The White House Warns Us:

    First, Trump wouldn't have said it.

    You're right. It needs a few more exclamation points and nickname insults.

    Second, tell me what problems it is you have with "MAGA country"...

    Did I say I had problems? What I said is had Trump said this, there would be those (who criticize it) who would praise its brutal honesty.

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    Larry
    wrote on 20 Dec 2021, 22:02 last edited by
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    @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

    @larry said in The White House Warns Us:

    First, Trump wouldn't have said it.

    You're right. It needs a few more exclamation points and nickname insults.

    Second, tell me what problems it is you have with "MAGA country"...

    Did I say I had problems? What I said is had Trump said this, there would be those (who criticize it) who would praise its brutal honesty.

    Then if that was all you said, why did you takes the time and effort to sneer at the "MAGA" crowd? You don't even see your own bias. "If Trump had said it" his no reason to write what you wrote, because it's a false premise. Trump WOULDNT have said it. The very fact that he wouldn't have said it in the first place makes your entire point ridiculoys.

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      Mik
      wrote on 20 Dec 2021, 23:49 last edited by
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      Test supplies and kits are running short. What happened to Joe invoking the war powers act to make them manufacture enough?

      He’s too damn focused on using our money to buy votes.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        20 Dec 2021, 23:49

        Test supplies and kits are running short. What happened to Joe invoking the war powers act to make them manufacture enough?

        He’s too damn focused on using our money to buy votes.

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        George K
        wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 00:06 last edited by
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        @mik said in The White House Warns Us:

        Test supplies and kits are running short.

        As I said in another thread:

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 00:08 last edited by
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          D4 drove to Northwestern to get some bloodwork done.

          The lines (drive through and walk-up) for testing were beyond belief. Like "around the block" beyond belief.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • 8 89th
            20 Dec 2021, 19:36

            I bet if Trump had said this, which would've match his unfiltered approach (most of the time I appreciated), MAGA country would be cheering this on as unfiltered honesty.

            Which is what it is.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 01:31 last edited by
            #12

            @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

            I bet if Trump had said this, which would've match his unfiltered approach (most of the time I appreciated), MAGA country would be cheering this on as unfiltered honesty.

            Which is what it is.

            Absolute horseshit..

            Was a lot gloomier with the original virus, or don't you remember? And Trump said nothing of the kind.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Copper
              wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 02:17 last edited by
              #13

              Tucker went after the Winter of Death speech tonight

              There are now more covid deaths under Mr. Biden with the vaccine than under Mr. Trump without the vaccine

              There have been zero deaths in the US from the Omicron variant

              Go watch Tucker, it is really fun

              I like when he plays those quick-cut things that show every cnn anchor saying the same catch-phrase

              Today all the cnn people (there must have been at least a dozen on different cnn shows) used the phrase 'viral blizzard'

              As in, OMG! A viral blizzard is about to hit the US!

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              • C Copper
                21 Dec 2021, 02:17

                Tucker went after the Winter of Death speech tonight

                There are now more covid deaths under Mr. Biden with the vaccine than under Mr. Trump without the vaccine

                There have been zero deaths in the US from the Omicron variant

                Go watch Tucker, it is really fun

                I like when he plays those quick-cut things that show every cnn anchor saying the same catch-phrase

                Today all the cnn people (there must have been at least a dozen on different cnn shows) used the phrase 'viral blizzard'

                As in, OMG! A viral blizzard is about to hit the US!

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                Copper
                wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 02:46 last edited by
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                @copper said in The White House Warns Us:

                There have been zero deaths in the US from the Omicron variant

                Not any more

                One confirmed death from Omicron today

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                • L Larry
                  20 Dec 2021, 22:02

                  @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

                  @larry said in The White House Warns Us:

                  First, Trump wouldn't have said it.

                  You're right. It needs a few more exclamation points and nickname insults.

                  Second, tell me what problems it is you have with "MAGA country"...

                  Did I say I had problems? What I said is had Trump said this, there would be those (who criticize it) who would praise its brutal honesty.

                  Then if that was all you said, why did you takes the time and effort to sneer at the "MAGA" crowd? You don't even see your own bias. "If Trump had said it" his no reason to write what you wrote, because it's a false premise. Trump WOULDNT have said it. The very fact that he wouldn't have said it in the first place makes your entire point ridiculoys.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 03:19 last edited by
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                  @larry said in The White House Warns Us:

                  Then if that was all you said, why did you takes the time and effort to sneer at the "MAGA" crowd?

                  How did I sneer? All I said is the MAGA crowd would've cheered such a brutally honest comment. If anything, it's a compliment that the MAGA cohort likes the unfiltered, politically incorrect, approach. I like it, too.

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                  • J Jolly
                    21 Dec 2021, 01:31

                    @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

                    I bet if Trump had said this, which would've match his unfiltered approach (most of the time I appreciated), MAGA country would be cheering this on as unfiltered honesty.

                    Which is what it is.

                    Absolute horseshit..

                    Was a lot gloomier with the original virus, or don't you remember? And Trump said nothing of the kind.

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                    89th
                    wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 03:23 last edited by
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                    @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                    Was a lot gloomier with the original virus, or don't you remember? And Trump said nothing of the kind.

                    Well the vaccine wasn't out for the masses yet in Dec 2020. But had it been, and had Trump said something of the kind, it probably would've saved lives. Then again, in Dec 2020 Trump was focused on something else...

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                      89th
                      wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 03:25 last edited by
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                      BTW I had my very first COVID test today. I've done a bit of business travel the past week and wanted to get checked out before being around family (especially older relatives). Did a drive-thru PCR test at a CVS, should find out in a day or two. No symptoms, just being careful. Oh, no line either... I found it pretty easy to book an appointment via the Minnesota health website.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 07:36 last edited by
                        #18

                        Or, you're very early in the process, without enough circulating copies to ping the test. 😊

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:22 last edited by
                          #19

                          What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                          QUOTE
                          In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                          UNQUOTE

                          I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                          Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

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                          • T taiwan_girl
                            21 Dec 2021, 15:22

                            What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                            QUOTE
                            In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                            UNQUOTE

                            I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                            Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:25 last edited by
                            #20

                            @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                            What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                            QUOTE
                            In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                            UNQUOTE

                            I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                            Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

                            Incorrect?

                            Because it's bullshit.

                            Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • J Jolly
                              21 Dec 2021, 15:25

                              @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                              What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                              QUOTE
                              In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                              UNQUOTE

                              I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                              Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

                              Incorrect?

                              Because it's bullshit.

                              Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:29 last edited by
                              #21

                              @Jolly wrote:

                              Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                              Infections or hospitalization?
                              Either way, that means 90%+ of cases are not breakthrough, 90%+ of cases hit the unvaccinated.

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                              • J Jolly
                                21 Dec 2021, 15:25

                                @taiwan_girl said in The White House Warns Us:

                                What exactly is incorrect about the statement from the White House?

                                QUOTE
                                In October, unvaccinated individuals had a 5 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 14 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals, according to data compiled by the CDC. Additionally, unvaccinated individuals had a 10 times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 and a 20 times greater risk of dying from it, as compared to fully vaccinated individuals with a booster.
                                UNQUOTE

                                I am sure people will say, "oh, if they want to take the risk, that is their choice.". NO, it is like a pebble being dropped into a pond. Their being in the hospital means one less bed for someone who has scheduled surgery. Which means they are putting others in danger. Etc etc Someone wants to drive 100 km/hr down a residential street. "OH, that it their choice. If they want to risk their life, they should be able to do it." Eye yay yay 🙄

                                Again, it gets back to the point that to live in a civilized society, there are things that we should (or must) do that we may not fully agree with.

                                Incorrect?

                                Because it's bullshit.

                                Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:32 last edited by
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                                @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                Incorrect?
                                Because it's bullshit.
                                Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                I was only joking

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:38 last edited by
                                  #23

                                  @Axtremus @Doctor-Phibes Agree, That was my point. It is one thing to have COVID and be mild or no symptoms.

                                  Another stage all together to be in the hospital.

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    21 Dec 2021, 15:32

                                    @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                    Incorrect?
                                    Because it's bullshit.
                                    Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                    So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:50 last edited by
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                    So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                    Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                    Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

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                                    • A Axtremus
                                      21 Dec 2021, 15:29

                                      @Jolly wrote:

                                      Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                      Infections or hospitalization?
                                      Either way, that means 90%+ of cases are not breakthrough, 90%+ of cases hit the unvaccinated.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:56 last edited by
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                                      @axtremus said in The White House Warns Us:

                                      @Jolly wrote:

                                      Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                      Infections or hospitalization?
                                      Either way, that means 90%+ of cases are not breakthrough, 90%+ of cases hit the unvaccinated.

                                      Hospitalization.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • 8 89th
                                        21 Dec 2021, 15:50

                                        @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                        So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                        Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                        Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:57 last edited by
                                        #26

                                        @89th said in The White House Warns Us:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                        So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                        Yeah but it's a democrat saying it so it must be criticized.

                                        Reminder: I am a conservative, but I am glad to see the government making the messaging very clear.

                                        You like the government waaay too much to be conservative, other than the typical beltway crap.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          21 Dec 2021, 15:32

                                          @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                          Incorrect?
                                          Because it's bullshit.
                                          Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                          So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 21 Dec 2021, 15:58 last edited by
                                          #27

                                          @doctor-phibes said in The White House Warns Us:

                                          @jolly said in The White House Warns Us:

                                          Incorrect?
                                          Because it's bullshit.
                                          Breakthrough cases got up to 10% down here during the Delta wave.

                                          So non-vaccinated made up 90% of the cases? That's greater than 5 times the risk for testing positive, which is what the government claimed.

                                          That's not what the statement or the graph says. Relick your calf.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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