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Omicron variant: Move over, Delta

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    Renauda
    wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 15:59 last edited by Renauda 12 Jun 2021, 16:00
    #85

    No one ever said a virus behaved or virused logically.

    Elbows up!

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    • L LuFins Dad
      6 Dec 2021, 15:23

      @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

      That is the conclusion of another pre-print study in which researchers “found a snippet of genetic code that is also present in a virus that can bring about a cold,” reports the Washington Post. That could mean the variant spreads more easily but only causes mild or asymptomatic illness.

      How does that work out? That doesn’t even make logical sense.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 16:16 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Jun 2021, 16:17
      #86

      @lufins-dad said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

      @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

      That is the conclusion of another pre-print study in which researchers “found a snippet of genetic code that is also present in a virus that can bring about a cold,” reports the Washington Post. That could mean the variant spreads more easily but only causes mild or asymptomatic illness.

      How does that work out? That doesn’t even make logical sense.

      Why not? There’s not much selective pressure on the virus to become less deadly since deaths occur so long after contagion but there’s no reason it can’t happen.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • J jon-nyc
        6 Dec 2021, 16:16

        @lufins-dad said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

        @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

        That is the conclusion of another pre-print study in which researchers “found a snippet of genetic code that is also present in a virus that can bring about a cold,” reports the Washington Post. That could mean the variant spreads more easily but only causes mild or asymptomatic illness.

        How does that work out? That doesn’t even make logical sense.

        Why not? There’s not much selective pressure on the virus to become less deadly since deaths occur so long after contagion but there’s no reason it can’t happen.

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        George K
        wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 16:29 last edited by
        #87

        @jon-nyc said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

        Why not? There’s not much selective pressure on the virus to become less deadly since deaths occur so long after contagion but there’s no reason it can’t happen.

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 17:46 last edited by
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          @renauda said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

          No one ever said a virus behaved or virused logically.

          I mean the conclusion. It’s very possible that the virus causes general milder symptoms, and even probable over time that newer versions will cause milder symptoms. It’s what happened with the flu and other viruses in the past. What is not logical is concluding that it is milder because it bonded with a cold virus…

          The Brad

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          • J jon-nyc
            6 Dec 2021, 16:16

            @lufins-dad said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

            @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

            That is the conclusion of another pre-print study in which researchers “found a snippet of genetic code that is also present in a virus that can bring about a cold,” reports the Washington Post. That could mean the variant spreads more easily but only causes mild or asymptomatic illness.

            How does that work out? That doesn’t even make logical sense.

            Why not? There’s not much selective pressure on the virus to become less deadly since deaths occur so long after contagion but there’s no reason it can’t happen.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 17:48 last edited by
            #89

            @jon-nyc said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

            @lufins-dad said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

            @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

            That is the conclusion of another pre-print study in which researchers “found a snippet of genetic code that is also present in a virus that can bring about a cold,” reports the Washington Post. That could mean the variant spreads more easily but only causes mild or asymptomatic illness.

            How does that work out? That doesn’t even make logical sense.

            Why not? There’s not much selective pressure on the virus to become less deadly since deaths occur so long after contagion but there’s no reason it can’t happen.

            It’s reasonable to assume the virus will become less deadly over time. Prognosticating Omicron this early? Not logical. And if it is less deadly, stating it’s because it bonded with a cold virus? That’s like the Underwear Gnome Equation.

            The Brad

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 17:57 last edited by
              #90

              I have absolutely no problem getting a virus, however I'm afraid that I have no real idea how they work.

              In that way, they're a lot like smartphones, which also seem to mutate into something even more awful on a depressingly regular basis.

              I was only joking

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 21:15 last edited by
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                Science!

                I really can't imagine a group of more insufferable people than these 5....

                Yeah...

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 22:40 last edited by
                  #92

                  People are idiots. The larger the group, the bigger the idiocy.

                  The Brad

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    6 Dec 2021, 22:40

                    People are idiots. The larger the group, the bigger the idiocy.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 00:23 last edited by
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                    @lufins-dad said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                    People are idiots. The larger the group, the bigger the idiocy.

                    I see we read the same literature.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      6 Dec 2021, 22:40

                      People are idiots. The larger the group, the bigger the idiocy.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 01:47 last edited by Renauda 12 Jul 2021, 01:48
                      #94

                      @lufins-dad said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                      People are idiots. The larger the group, the bigger the idiocy.

                      So much for populism, eh? Right or left populism it doesn’t matter. It always comes back to the idiocy of the common rabble.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • G George K
                        6 Dec 2021, 21:15

                        Science!

                        I really can't imagine a group of more insufferable people than these 5....

                        Yeah...

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                        89th
                        wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 12:29 last edited by
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                        @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                        I really can't imagine a group of more insufferable people than these 5....

                        Indeed. They remind me of the opinions/noise you'd here from a group of women outside a grocery store or at a happy hour who decide to get into a current events discussion. Personally, I only watch because of that sweet eye candy, Ms Behar.

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                        • G George K
                          6 Dec 2021, 21:15

                          Science!

                          I really can't imagine a group of more insufferable people than these 5....

                          Yeah...

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                          89th
                          wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 12:31 last edited by
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                          @george-k

                          "Do any of you men have any eggs or the possibility of carrying a fetus? How dare you talk about what a fetus wants! You have no idea."

                          First, neither do you. Second, the fetus is the result of two ingredients, one comes from the man. #sexytime

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 12:34 last edited by
                            #97

                            "Do any of you men have any eggs or the possibility of carrying a fetus? How dare you talk about what a fetus wants! You have no idea."

                            Bigot, the phrase is non-birthing person. Time for someone to get canceled…

                            The Brad

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                              George K
                              wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 17:21 last edited by
                              #98

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                13 Dec 2021, 17:21

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 17:27 last edited by
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                                @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                Because statistics.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 17:45 last edited by Horace
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                                  The vast majority of social ideas in anybody's head are "populist" received ideas taken on faith and held together by agreement. We term ideas "populist" as individuals if an idea we consider stupid is held by a critical mass of people. One man's populism is another man's wisdom. Witness wokeness, considered by most here populist, but by others, including academic and media elite, to be the height of intellectualism and wisdom.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    13 Dec 2021, 17:27

                                    @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                    Because statistics.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 17:55 last edited by
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                                    @aqua-letifer said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                    Because statistics.

                                    And this is why my surgeon friend pisses me off. He throws out all of these "statistics" about adverse reactions, the number of deaths because of the vaccination, etc.

                                    And yet, how many of the hundreds of thousands in the US would be alive had they been vaccinated? Surely deaths avoided count for something.

                                    As I mentioned in the other thread, I didn't ask him, "OK, what's the alternative, if not vaccination?" Should have.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      13 Dec 2021, 17:55

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                      Because statistics.

                                      And this is why my surgeon friend pisses me off. He throws out all of these "statistics" about adverse reactions, the number of deaths because of the vaccination, etc.

                                      And yet, how many of the hundreds of thousands in the US would be alive had they been vaccinated? Surely deaths avoided count for something.

                                      As I mentioned in the other thread, I didn't ask him, "OK, what's the alternative, if not vaccination?" Should have.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 17:56 last edited by
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                                      @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                      As I mentioned in the other thread, I didn't ask him, "OK, what's the alternative, if not vaccination?" Should have.

                                      Eh, only would have made you angrier would be me guess.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 23:43 last edited by
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                                        I asked that of my antivax friends at the all class reunion. They responded with their treasured ivermectin stashes.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          13 Dec 2021, 17:27

                                          @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                          Because statistics.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 14 Dec 2021, 02:09 last edited by
                                          #104

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                          @george-k said in Omicron variant: Move over, Delta:

                                          Because statistics.

                                          But the total hospitalizations are still about the same proportion to new cases as they were a year ago…

                                          The Brad

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