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Omicron variant: Move over, Delta

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    Mik
    wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 00:07 last edited by
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    You should see the network news. Omicron is the new Trump.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • G George K
      26 Nov 2021, 22:20

      The W.H.O. wouldn’t want to offend China, now, would they?

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 00:15 last edited by
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      @george-k said in Move over, Delta:

      The W.H.O. wouldn’t want to offend China, now, would they?

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      This really is absurd.

      The Brad

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      • L LuFins Dad
        27 Nov 2021, 23:45

        Israel just closed their borders.

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        George K
        wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 00:21 last edited by
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        @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

        Israel just closed their borders.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-ban-entry-foreigners-all-countries-over-omicron-2021-11-27/

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 02:44 last edited by jon-nyc
          #35

          I’m glad I’m flying home today (Sunday). Monday the airports will probably be messy as the US implements its ban.

          We all had negative antigen tests Friday. We’ll be wearing N95s on the plane.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • L LuFins Dad
            27 Nov 2021, 23:45

            Israel just closed their borders.

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            bachophile
            wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 03:38 last edited by
            #36

            @lufins-dad keep out the riff raff

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            • J jon-nyc
              28 Nov 2021, 02:44

              I’m glad I’m flying home today (Sunday). Monday the airports will probably be messy as the US implements its ban.

              We all had negative antigen tests Friday. We’ll be wearing N95s on the plane.

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              Mik
              wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 03:50 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Move over, Delta:

              I’m glad I’m flying home today (Sunday). Monday the airports will probably be messy as the US implements its ban.

              We all had negative antigen tests Friday. We’ll be wearing N95s on the plane.

              Hope the trip went smoothly.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 04:13 last edited by
                #38

                Oh yes, lovely. Not quite the same as spring break, which we purchased the tickets for. But still nice.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 04:41 last edited by
                  #39

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    28 Nov 2021, 04:41

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                    89th
                    wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 12:45 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc lol

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                      George K
                      wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 12:46 last edited by
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                      I saw an article quoting a doc in South Africa who's taken care of patients with the Nu Xi Omicron variant.

                      First of all, his patient population was young, and afaik, had no co-morbidities.

                      He says the symptoms were very mild, no anosmia, no loss of taste. One kid had a very rapid heart rate. Most common symptoms were overwhelming fatigue and some fever.

                      All resolved in a matter of days.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 12:47 last edited by
                        #42

                        And meanwhile, in New York, the governor has cancelled all "elective" surgery because of the Omicron variant, which hasn't even been found in the US (though undoubtedly it exists).

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          28 Nov 2021, 12:47

                          And meanwhile, in New York, the governor has cancelled all "elective" surgery because of the Omicron variant, which hasn't even been found in the US (though undoubtedly it exists).

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 14:38 last edited by
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                          @george-k said in Move over, Delta:

                          governor has cancelled all "elective" surgery

                          Is he going to pick up the tab for that?

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 14:41 last edited by
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                            Fear! FEAR! POWER!

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 14:46 last edited by
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                              In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

                              The Brad

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                28 Nov 2021, 14:46

                                In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 15:45 last edited by
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                                @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

                                In the meantime, this may be the solution that we’ve been waiting for.

                                Attenuation, you mean?

                                They said it'd take 3-5 years, but it's also mutating at a much faster rate than they predicted.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 15:47 last edited by
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                                  'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • M Mik
                                    28 Nov 2021, 15:47

                                    'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 16:16 last edited by
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                                    @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                    'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                                    That might mean different things.

                                    Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                                    But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:04 last edited by George K
                                      #49

                                      The "already worried" tweet was on Aug 4.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • A Aqua Letifer
                                        28 Nov 2021, 16:16

                                        @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                        'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                                        That might mean different things.

                                        Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                                        But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:25 last edited by
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                                        @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

                                        @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                        'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                                        That might mean different things.

                                        Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                                        But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

                                        Technically this is Nu…

                                        The Brad

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          28 Nov 2021, 18:25

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

                                          @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                          'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                                          That might mean different things.

                                          Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                                          But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

                                          Technically this is Nu…

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 28 Nov 2021, 18:42 last edited by
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                                          @lufins-dad said in Move over, Delta:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Move over, Delta:

                                          @mik said in Move over, Delta:

                                          'They' have also speculated that the virus can only mutate so much. But it's at the point where I believe none of what I hear and only half of what I see.

                                          That might mean different things.

                                          Proteins are very complex. There are probably a near-infinite number of possibilities.

                                          But how many of them can compete with Delta? Assume Xi (I'm calling it that) replaces Delta in fitness. That is hard enough, but Xi, being even more fit, would make it that much harder for new variants to replace Xi. And the kind of traits the new variants would need would lead it eventually toward attenuation. That's not to say one of them could blow up into something really nasty, but overall it's incentivized to get to something more like the common cold instead of ebola.

                                          Technically this is Nu…

                                          I Xi.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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