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The hammer came down yesterday.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

    Interesting. The people that busted their ass in N95's, paper gowns and nitrile gloves are just dispensible cogs in the machine. In the most hands-on of all businesses, I guess some hands are not wanted or needed.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      How do you feel about the Redcross not accepting gay blood?

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        I think it's wonderful.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Similarly wonderful to not accept unvaxxed hands.

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            Bullshit. When you're sick and hurting, vaccination status of your caregiver is not the thing foremost in your mind.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Axtremus
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              #6

              When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

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                Jolly
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                @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

                Are you sure you want into this discussion with a guy who used to inspect blood banks?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                    Interesting. The people that busted their ass in N95's, paper gowns and nitrile gloves are just dispensible cogs in the machine. In the most hands-on of all businesses, I guess some hands are not wanted or needed.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                    are just dispensible cogs in the machine.

                    Well, yeah. Welcome to business.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

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                      Axtremus
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                      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                      Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                      Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

                        Are you sure you want into this discussion with a guy who used to inspect blood banks?

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                        @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                        When you need a blood transfusion, the sexual orientation of the blood donor is similarly not the foremost thing in your mind.

                        Are you sure you want into this discussion with a guy who used to inspect blood banks?

                        Yes, bring it.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

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                          #12

                          @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                          Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months. It is to maintain an HIV free blood supply.

                          Personally, I think that's too lenient. The primary purpose of screening questions and actual testing is to provide the safest product possible. after all, blood is a drug and has to meet FDA standards. Screening tests can and do give an occasional false negative.

                          It's a stone cold bitch to walk into a patient's room and tell the parent of a 16 year-old MVA patient that the blood she received may have been erroneously tested and now measures have to be taken to try to prevent disease, such as hepatitis or HIV.

                          Or, reaching into the dim mists of time, does anybody remember the massive HCV look-back program?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                            Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

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                            @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                            Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                            Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                            Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              From the CDC:

                              New HIV Diagnoses Among Adults and Adolescents in the
                              US and Dependent Areas by Transmission Category, 2019

                              Transmission Category Males Females Total
                              Male-to-male sexual contact 24,084 NA 24,084
                              Injection drug use 1,397 1,111 2,508
                              Male-to-male sexual contact
                              and injection drug use 1,468 NA 1,468
                              Heterosexual contact 2,754 5,863 8,617
                              Perinatal 14 21 35
                              Others 23 5 28

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

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                                Mik
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                                @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                Your ability to miss the point and go down unproductive rabbit trails is legendary.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Jolly
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                                  I think the above is clear evidence where the primary repository of HIV+ exists.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                    are just dispensible cogs in the machine.

                                    Well, yeah. Welcome to business.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    @aqua-letifer Sadly, healthcare used to not be that kind of business.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                      @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                      Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                      Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                      Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                      Ok, what are your chances of getting COVID-19 from a healthcare provider in PPE and getting a life-altering disease from tainted blood? Your chances of surviving C-19 are pretty good. HIV may have more of an impact on your life style and your life span.

                                      Oh good, now we are down to negotiating a price probabilities.

                                      Now, Mr. I-used-to-inspect-blood-banks, what are the chances that the blood bank system let slip a pint of blood that is HIV+?

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                        Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                        Your ability to miss the point and go down unproductive rabbit trails is legendary.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @axtremus said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        @mik said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                        Red Cross does accept donations from gay men who attest they have not had sex with a man in 12 months.

                                        Yeah, try getting healthcare providers to attest that they have no contact with COVID-19 patients in 12 months.

                                        Your ability to miss the point …

                                        Not at all, you’re just going down a line of argument I anticipated when making my first post in this thread.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                                          Interesting. The people that busted their ass in N95's, paper gowns and nitrile gloves are just dispensible cogs in the machine. In the most hands-on of all businesses, I guess some hands are not wanted or needed.

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                                          @jolly said in The hammer came down yesterday.:

                                          The little hospital where I do my PRN, received notice yesterday. First vaxx by 12/4 or termination.

                                          How many front-line medical workers aren't taking the vaccine? Seems foolish, IMO.

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