RIP, Colin Powell
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You'd rather saw off a feat of yours than saying anything even remotely critical of Trump, don't you Jolly?
@klaus said in RIP, Colin Powell:
You'd rather saw off a feat of yours than saying anything even remotely critical of Trump, don't you Jolly?
Nah, but the street flows both ways. Nobody criticized Powell for taking a shot at Trump. No, people ballyhooed the statement.
Was Trump being an ass? Yeppers. Was he being vindictive. Yep.
But until coverage is meted out fairly, it doesn't bother me tremendously. And as my grocery bill climbs, as I pay more at the pump and as we receive more mandates from Washington Central Planning, I find myself missing ol' DJT more and more.
Warts and all.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@doctor-phibes said in RIP, Colin Powell:
He even thinks Powell dying should be about him.
That guy is damaged.
People make hay about TDS but nobody’s Trump obsession is as strong or as deranged as Trump’s obsession with himself.
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@klaus said in RIP, Colin Powell:
You'd rather saw off a feat of yours than saying anything even remotely critical of Trump, don't you Jolly?
Nah, but the street flows both ways. Nobody criticized Powell for taking a shot at Trump. No, people ballyhooed the statement.
Was Trump being an ass? Yeppers. Was he being vindictive. Yep.
But until coverage is meted out fairly, it doesn't bother me tremendously. And as my grocery bill climbs, as I pay more at the pump and as we receive more mandates from Washington Central Planning, I find myself missing ol' DJT more and more.
Warts and all.
@jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:
Nah, but the street flows both ways. Nobody criticized Powell for taking a shot at Trump. No, people ballyhooed the statement.
Are you really incapable of seeing the difference between having a go at a politician who is still alive, and somebody who has just died?
If you take away the warts, what are you left with?
It's also worth asking what on earth Trump hoped to gain by making this pronouncement. Do you think he won over any voters?
Yeah, I know. Stupid like a fox.
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@george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:
The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.
Well, to be fair, they called him 'exemplary', and they didn't go on about themselves.
What Trump said wasn't just impolite. Impolite is belching during the funeral. He took a shit in Powell's casket.
@doctor-phibes said in RIP, Colin Powell:
What Trump said wasn't just impolite. Impolite is belching during the funeral. He took a shit in Powell's casket.
Trump also eloquently used the phrase "but anyway", which brought his narrative from a 3rd grade grudge to a 5th grade grudge.
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@klaus said in RIP, Colin Powell:
You'd rather saw off a feat of yours than saying anything even remotely critical of Trump, don't you Jolly?
Nah, but the street flows both ways. Nobody criticized Powell for taking a shot at Trump. No, people ballyhooed the statement.
Was Trump being an ass? Yeppers. Was he being vindictive. Yep.
But until coverage is meted out fairly, it doesn't bother me tremendously. And as my grocery bill climbs, as I pay more at the pump and as we receive more mandates from Washington Central Planning, I find myself missing ol' DJT more and more.
Warts and all.
@jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:
@klaus said in RIP, Colin Powell:
You'd rather saw off a feat of yours than saying anything even remotely critical of Trump, don't you Jolly?
Nah, but the street flows both ways. Nobody criticized Powell for taking a shot at Trump. No, people ballyhooed the statement.
Was Trump being an ass? Yeppers. Was he being vindictive. Yep.
But until coverage is meted out fairly, it doesn't bother me tremendously. And as my grocery bill climbs, as I pay more at the pump and as we receive more mandates from Washington Central Planning, I find myself missing ol' DJT more and more.
Warts and all.
LOL you think he could've controlled any of that?
At some point you'll look back and realized you turned a blind eye to the worst of the worst characters to ever hold the high office. I've said many times before, imagine Obama tried doing/saying the same things in 2012 had he lost to McCain. If Obama fired the FBI director investigating him, if Obama was impeached twice, if Obama refused to accept the election results where he lost in the landslide. You would've called out the idiocy. But since Trump wears a red hat...
BTW do you think Powell would've insulted Trump a few days after his death, had the roles been reversed?
For the record, Powell's "shot at trump" was quite accurate, presuming that's what you're referring to.
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Dude, I don't care what they say. Pols say anything. I care about what they do.
If you want somebody to blow smoke up your ass, D.C. is full of them.
Jo-jo the senile boy, just told you that the ports would be running in L.A. What happened? Nithing this past weekend. But Joe sounded good...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Dude, I don't care what they say. Pols say anything. I care about what they do.
If you want somebody to blow smoke up your ass, D.C. is full of them.
Jo-jo the senile boy, just told you that the ports would be running in L.A. What happened? Nithing this past weekend. But Joe sounded good...
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Am I just getting older, or is the bar for acceptable candidates getting much lower?
I just don't understand how... 3 years out from a Presidential election, Trump is seen as a desirable candidate by a significant portion of the electorate.
Feels like we should be able to do better out of 350M people...
The guy is a dumpster fire of a human - and his political positions are vanilla, if a bit crude (cut taxes, incentivize domestic industry, subsidize strategic industries, enforce border laws... that's like 90% of it).
He's not some magical policy unicorn that we should sacrifice all human norms to get access to.
I really don't see the appeal besides the desire to watch Trump throw feces at the libs.
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Am I just getting older, or is the bar for acceptable candidates getting much lower?
I just don't understand how... 3 years out from a Presidential election, Trump is seen as a desirable candidate by a significant portion of the electorate.
Feels like we should be able to do better out of 350M people...
The guy is a dumpster fire of a human - and his political positions are vanilla, if a bit crude (cut taxes, incentivize domestic industry, subsidize strategic industries, enforce border laws... that's like 90% of it).
He's not some magical policy unicorn that we should sacrifice all human norms to get access to.
I really don't see the appeal besides the desire to watch Trump throw feces at the libs.
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Am I just getting older, or is the bar for acceptable candidates getting much lower?
I just don't understand how... 3 years out from a Presidential election, Trump is seen as a desirable candidate by a significant portion of the electorate.
Feels like we should be able to do better out of 350M people...
The guy is a dumpster fire of a human - and his political positions are vanilla, if a bit crude (cut taxes, incentivize domestic industry, subsidize strategic industries, enforce border laws... that's like 90% of it).
He's not some magical policy unicorn that we should sacrifice all human norms to get access to.
I really don't see the appeal besides the desire to watch Trump throw feces at the libs.
@xenon said in RIP, Colin Powell:
I just don't understand how... 3 years out from a Presidential election, Trump is seen as a desirable candidate by a significant portion of the electorate.
Some snips from https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/573036-poll-biden-trump-statistically-tied-in-favorability on a September CAPS/Harris poll:
"President Biden and former President Trump are statistically tied when it comes to their favorability among U.S. voters, according to a new Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll survey shared exclusively with The Hill on Monday.
"The findings are a remarkable shift for Biden, who repeatedly outperformed Trump’s favorability numbers throughout the early months of his presidency.
"But multiple crises, including a surge in new COVID-19 infections in recent months and the chaotic withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, have bruised public perceptions of Biden.
" . . . Biden saw his biggest drops in approval on his handling of foreign affairs and his administration’s efforts to combat terrorism. In both matters, his approval dropped 13 points since July."
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^So it may be that Biden has dropped down to Trump, rather than support growing for Trump. At least, according to this article.
And it may also be that Americans are saying a pox on both of them, and only time will tell whether that perception shifts.
It may be that Biden will hand off the presidency to Trump like a football, the way he's going.
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I would not vote for him again. If the GOP runs Trump again it means they have no principles whatsoever except winning.
And his statement on Powell's death is unsurprisingly boorish. Enough already.
What he has shown us though is that his policies were for the most part on point. We need to keep that.
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Dude, I don't care what they say. Pols say anything. I care about what they do.
If you want somebody to blow smoke up your ass, D.C. is full of them.
Jo-jo the senile boy, just told you that the ports would be running in L.A. What happened? Nithing this past weekend. But Joe sounded good...
@jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:
Between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump.
Yeah, but your current choice isn't between Trump and Biden, it's between Trump and a bunch of other Republicans. Do you seriously think that Donald Trump is the best that the GOP has to offer?
I was only joking
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@jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:
Between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump.
Yeah, but your current choice isn't between Trump and Biden, it's between Trump and a bunch of other Republicans. Do you seriously think that Donald Trump is the best that the GOP has to offer?
@doctor-phibes That brings up a question that's been bugging me for some time now. Why has it been Trump/Biden, Trump/Biden, Trump/Biden? Is there seriously no one else in the whole political class that the parties can float?
Seriously???
If there's a rational explanation for this, I'd accept it. But what am I missing?
ETA later: I am an idiot. (Shut up.) It's the parties who control the nominations, and the parties will not permit split loyalties, fearing to dilute their chances of a W. It's been shown that candidates who go their own way don't succeed. We learned that with Perot. He came close enough to leaving a mark, and I think that scared the parties.
Trump started out on his own, but that didn't last long. After hanging back to see if Trump could garner viability, like the true bravos they are, the Republicans adopted him joyfully.
Trump's excellent salesmanship skillz trounced Perot like the Saints trounced the Packers recently.
(Translation for you poor benighted souls who see not the wonderfulness that is football: Trump had the skill to beat poor Perot like a big bass drum.)
So, nobody will gain a foothold without party support -- no matter how excellent they would be.
That's the true shame of it.
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@jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:
Between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump.
Yeah, but your current choice isn't between Trump and Biden, it's between Trump and a bunch of other Republicans. Do you seriously think that Donald Trump is the best that the GOP has to offer?
@doctor-phibes said in RIP, Colin Powell:
@jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:
Between Trump and Biden, I'd vote for Trump.
Yeah, but your current choice isn't between Trump and Biden, it's between Trump and a bunch of other Republicans. Do you seriously think that Donald Trump is the best that the GOP has to offer?
Nope, but I think he still has enough support that he can win enough primaries for the nomination and then you're down to an A/B choice.
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That would be great but we’ll probably never see such a thing again in our lifetime.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
