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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    #21

    RIP

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @lufins-dad said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

      Makes sense, in this case.

      Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

      What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it would;dn't have helped.

      Not everyone has the health issues that he had.

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      #22

      @aqua-letifer said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      @lufins-dad said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      @mik said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

      From CDC: "Myeloma, also called multiple myeloma, is a cancer of the plasma cells. Plasma cells are white blood cells that make antibodies that protect us from infection. In myeloma, the cells grow too much, crowding out normal cells in the bone marrow that make red blood cells, platelets, and other white blood cells."

      Makes sense, in this case.

      Yet people will still point to this as a breakthrough case, positing that the vaccine doesn't work.

      What I've seen are people posting that this proves how important the boosters are... Though, as @bachophile noted, he could have been getting boosters every day and it wouldn't have helped.

      Not everyone has the health issues that he had.

      Very few have the health issues he had. I'm just replying to Mik's concern that anti-vaxxers would point to this case and say "See! The vaccine didn't work!" That's not been the case. It's been people pointing to the need for Boosters.

      The Brad

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        @mik crazy

        Myeloma patients have no immune system. I doubt he could develop any viable antibodies from a vaccine. Any vaccine. Even mumps or measles.

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        #23

        Condolences to the Powells.

        @bachophile said in RIP, Colin Powell:

        Myeloma patients have no immune system. I doubt he could develop any viable antibodies from a vaccine. Any vaccine. Even mumps or measles.

        What could have protected Gen. Powell was herd immunity -- if all those who came into contact with him were vaccinated or otherwise acquired immunity, Powell could have been spared from the disease.

        Vaccination is not only to protect yourself, but also to protect those with whom you come into contact.

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        • bachophileB Offline
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          bachophile
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          #24

          Now this is what’s called a real class act.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            #25

            Counterpunch.

            In one of his very last interviews, Powell took a shot at Trump.

            Nobody ever said DJT can't hold a grudge.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Counterpunch.

              In one of his very last interviews, Powell took a shot at Trump.

              Nobody ever said DJT can't hold a grudge.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #26

              @jolly said in RIP, Colin Powell:

              Counterpunch.

              In one of his very last interviews, Powell took a shot at Trump.

              Nobody ever said DJT can't hold a grudge.

              Counterpunch, when he's just died? Yeah, he got the last word in!

              He even thinks Powell dying should be about him.

              That guy is damaged.

              I was only joking

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              • Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                Jesus. Just when you think he's gone as low as he can go . . .

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  Does this mean you aren't voting for him?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

                    E84EC2BD-164B-46E4-A3EF-25A43CC8BA52.jpeg

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • KlausK Offline
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                      #30

                      How is that "the same thing"? It's a completely different thing.

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                      • George KG George K

                        The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

                        E84EC2BD-164B-46E4-A3EF-25A43CC8BA52.jpeg

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #31

                        @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                        The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

                        Well, to be fair, they called him 'exemplary', and they didn't go on about themselves.

                        What Trump said wasn't just impolite. Impolite is belching during the funeral. He took a shit in Powell's casket.

                        I was only joking

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          And I'm sure that people will be just as kind to him after he's dead.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Renauda
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                            #33

                            RIP General Powell.

                            I would comment on the DJT statement but for the sake of decorum, I will refrain.

                            Elbows up!

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                              #34

                              You'd rather saw off a feat of yours than saying anything even remotely critical of Trump, don't you Jolly?

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                The AP says the same thing, albeit more politely.

                                Well, to be fair, they called him 'exemplary', and they didn't go on about themselves.

                                What Trump said wasn't just impolite. Impolite is belching during the funeral. He took a shit in Powell's casket.

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                                George K
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                                #35

                                @doctor-phibes said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                Impolite is belching during the funeral. He took a shit in Powell's casket.

                                Well, yeah, you're right there.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  From the RWEC:

                                  The best take on this I’ve seen came from a Twitter pal who simply posted a side-by-side of the commemorations of Powell issued by Jimmy Carter, George Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump. All you need to understand the Trump phenomenon is in that tweet. A third of the country will revel in the fact that 45 was willing to speak his mind about a political enemy at a moment when polite society was demanding that tribute be paid. Trump doesn’t stand at attention just because the political establishment tells him to.

                                  The other two-thirds of the country will share a look not unlike the one you’d share with a friend if someone nearby ripped a nasty wet fart.

                                  As brief as this is, it’s a classic of its genre because of how succinctly it summarizes Trump’s approach to people. There’s nothing in here about the election being rigged but apart from that it’s him to a T.
                                  It’s gratuitous since he wasn’t obliged to say anything about Powell’s passing. It’s narcissistic, turning Powell’s death into a complaint about Trump’s critics. It’s petty in that it’s unwilling to honor Powell’s accomplishments, of which there were many. It’s obsessed with media coverage, particularly how other figures are covered relative to how Trump himself is. And it’s dishonest inasmuch as Trump doesn’t actually care about the Iraq WMD debacle or Powell’s role in it. That was the low point of Powell’s public service and so it’s cited here opportunistically, to bolster Trump’s case against Powell to the reader. To 45, there’s only one test of a man’s value: Was he pro-Trump or anti-Trump?

                                  If Powell had supported him, Iraq would have been forgotten and Trump would have celebrated his career. Instead Powell was prone to saying things like this, requiring that Trump kick the coffin like he kicked John McCain’s and John Dingell’s. As his favorite Bible verse says: An eye for an eye. Even in death.

                                  That’s another way in which the statement is true to its author. Presented here with a free, easy opportunity to earn a little goodwill from his skeptics by taking the high road with Powell, he couldn’t do it. Although he’s likely to run again in 2024 and will need to rebuild his appeal with swing voters who were disgusted by how his presidency ended, he couldn’t play the elder statesman by offering a few sweet nothings about the late general even as a matter of political self-interest. That’s his 2020 election strategy all over again, less concerned with persuading voters who were leery of him than with getting his own base as hyped as they could be to turn out and vote.

                                  No one will remember his statement about Powell three days from now but little reminders like this that he hasn’t changed a tiny bit since leaving office are useful to his opponents in both parties. To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this. By 2024, I strongly suspect most of the country will prefer to be governed by Republican policies than by Democratic ones but the relentless cringe fatigue that another Trump term would bring to the population will cost him votes. Enough votes to lose? I don’t know. But it’ll cost him votes that a Ron DeSantis or Mike Pence would easily bank.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    From the RWEC:

                                    The best take on this I’ve seen came from a Twitter pal who simply posted a side-by-side of the commemorations of Powell issued by Jimmy Carter, George Bush, Barack Obama, and Trump. All you need to understand the Trump phenomenon is in that tweet. A third of the country will revel in the fact that 45 was willing to speak his mind about a political enemy at a moment when polite society was demanding that tribute be paid. Trump doesn’t stand at attention just because the political establishment tells him to.

                                    The other two-thirds of the country will share a look not unlike the one you’d share with a friend if someone nearby ripped a nasty wet fart.

                                    As brief as this is, it’s a classic of its genre because of how succinctly it summarizes Trump’s approach to people. There’s nothing in here about the election being rigged but apart from that it’s him to a T.
                                    It’s gratuitous since he wasn’t obliged to say anything about Powell’s passing. It’s narcissistic, turning Powell’s death into a complaint about Trump’s critics. It’s petty in that it’s unwilling to honor Powell’s accomplishments, of which there were many. It’s obsessed with media coverage, particularly how other figures are covered relative to how Trump himself is. And it’s dishonest inasmuch as Trump doesn’t actually care about the Iraq WMD debacle or Powell’s role in it. That was the low point of Powell’s public service and so it’s cited here opportunistically, to bolster Trump’s case against Powell to the reader. To 45, there’s only one test of a man’s value: Was he pro-Trump or anti-Trump?

                                    If Powell had supported him, Iraq would have been forgotten and Trump would have celebrated his career. Instead Powell was prone to saying things like this, requiring that Trump kick the coffin like he kicked John McCain’s and John Dingell’s. As his favorite Bible verse says: An eye for an eye. Even in death.

                                    That’s another way in which the statement is true to its author. Presented here with a free, easy opportunity to earn a little goodwill from his skeptics by taking the high road with Powell, he couldn’t do it. Although he’s likely to run again in 2024 and will need to rebuild his appeal with swing voters who were disgusted by how his presidency ended, he couldn’t play the elder statesman by offering a few sweet nothings about the late general even as a matter of political self-interest. That’s his 2020 election strategy all over again, less concerned with persuading voters who were leery of him than with getting his own base as hyped as they could be to turn out and vote.

                                    No one will remember his statement about Powell three days from now but little reminders like this that he hasn’t changed a tiny bit since leaving office are useful to his opponents in both parties. To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this. By 2024, I strongly suspect most of the country will prefer to be governed by Republican policies than by Democratic ones but the relentless cringe fatigue that another Trump term would bring to the population will cost him votes. Enough votes to lose? I don’t know. But it’ll cost him votes that a Ron DeSantis or Mike Pence would easily bank.

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                                    @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                    To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this.

                                    Vital to remember.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                      @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                      To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this.

                                      Vital to remember.

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                                      George K
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                                      @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                      @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                      To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this.

                                      Vital to remember.

                                      To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this

                                      Actually, he needs voters to forget about this.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @catseye3 said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                        @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                        To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this.

                                        Vital to remember.

                                        To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this

                                        Actually, he needs voters to forget about this.

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                                        Catseye3
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                                        @george-k said in RIP, Colin Powell:

                                        Vital to remember.

                                        To get reelected, he needs voters to agree to endure another four years of daily fart-smelling antics like this.

                                        Actually, he needs voters to forget about this.

                                        Ah, right. I was thinking of the rest of us.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                          #40

                                          You can agree with Trump's policies all day long - and that's fine. Hell there's overlap in my political beliefs and his.

                                          But, he's a disgusting man.

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