The She-cession
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wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 16:41 last edited by
How are you gonna keep them in Paris, once they've seen the farm?
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wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 16:51 last edited by
About 25% of corporate women recently said they’re thinking about downshifting or leaving the workforce all together.
That's everybody right now. Literally everybody. It's a trend that spans ages, genders, and type of work. The forces at play, based on smart people who have studied it in the past year:
- there's a very strong law of diminishing returns when it comes to pay vs. time for salaried work. Most of us don't notice this, because in America, we're too busy anyway. Do you and your spouse really need to work 45-50 hours a week? What's that actually paying for? Do you actually need all that shit? Due to remote work, family obligations, getting laid off, etc., etc., the pandemic has given many folks a time to come up for air and ask these sorts of questions.
- gaps in work history are hurting a lot of people in their job search. It doesn't matter that they were laid off due to the pandemic.
- About 15-20% of workers are still working remotely in any capacity. This is insane. Companies are doing everything they can to justify their old way of doing business at a time when we've never experienced more change. It's turning a lot of people off.
- companies are so inflexible in their hiring that they'll only hire people who already have the job they're applying for.
- a lot of folks out of work are either inflexible in what they're willing to consider, or crazy in their expectations for a career shift. No, most of the time, you can't just transition over to your dream job.
Etc., etc. It's a very complicated situation with many motivations behind it.
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How are you gonna keep them in Paris, once they've seen the farm?
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 18:48 last edited byHelp may be on the way from the government. U.S. President Joe Biden has tagged $650 billion for childcare programs, universal pre-K, and to establish a paid family and medical leave program. This proposal is being considered by Congress. If it passes, it could have a significant effect on the recruitment of women.
A large investment in childcare could pave the way for working mothers to return to the office. Offering FMLA—whether paid or unpaid—will ensure that a woman's job is protected in a medical emergency and that she can continue accessing her health benefits.
We're from the government and we're here to help you.
If these women can afford it, I have faith that they will be better mothers to their children than the government sponsored daycare. Let them re-enter the workforce as they wish. -
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 18:59 last edited by
And while we're at it, I might as well beat on another favorite subject of mine - new hire training.
At one time, companies would invest in employees by training them. Welding, machinists, pipefitters, carpenters, etc. I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.
Want to be a pharmacy or OR tech? Fine, start as a registration clerk on the nightshift and show us something. Next stop, we'll teach you medical terminology and make a scribe out of you. Perform well, and we'll make an ER tech out of you. Next stop, EMT, OR tech or Pharmacy tech training. Or maybe a job in medical records.
Want more formal training outside of the hospital? Sign this paper and agree to one year's service for every year of community college we pay for.
That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.
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And while we're at it, I might as well beat on another favorite subject of mine - new hire training.
At one time, companies would invest in employees by training them. Welding, machinists, pipefitters, carpenters, etc. I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.
Want to be a pharmacy or OR tech? Fine, start as a registration clerk on the nightshift and show us something. Next stop, we'll teach you medical terminology and make a scribe out of you. Perform well, and we'll make an ER tech out of you. Next stop, EMT, OR tech or Pharmacy tech training. Or maybe a job in medical records.
Want more formal training outside of the hospital? Sign this paper and agree to one year's service for every year of community college we pay for.
That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 19:11 last edited by@jolly said in The She-cession:
That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.
Time. They'll only hire people who already have the job. It's stupid, but it's the standard in a lot of fields.
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wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 20:57 last edited by
When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.
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And while we're at it, I might as well beat on another favorite subject of mine - new hire training.
At one time, companies would invest in employees by training them. Welding, machinists, pipefitters, carpenters, etc. I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.
Want to be a pharmacy or OR tech? Fine, start as a registration clerk on the nightshift and show us something. Next stop, we'll teach you medical terminology and make a scribe out of you. Perform well, and we'll make an ER tech out of you. Next stop, EMT, OR tech or Pharmacy tech training. Or maybe a job in medical records.
Want more formal training outside of the hospital? Sign this paper and agree to one year's service for every year of community college we pay for.
That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 21:15 last edited by Doctor Phibes 10 Jul 2021, 21:16@jolly said in The She-cession:
I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.
That's easy to understand. If you train somebody they'll learn the skill, then bugger off and go work somewhere else that doesn't train but pays better. The company's are only interested in the short term, and the employees are only interested in the money.
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When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 22:03 last edited by@mik said in The She-cession:
When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.
Agreed! I work in IT and have interviewed hundreds of folks over the years to join our team. I’ve come to realize the culture and team fit is almost always the most important aspect. Helps make the job fun, decreases turnover, and as you said, lots of skills can be learned on the job. Not all, but lots.
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@jolly said in The She-cession:
I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.
That's easy to understand. If you train somebody they'll learn the skill, then bugger off and go work somewhere else that doesn't train but pays better. The company's are only interested in the short term, and the employees are only interested in the money.
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 22:45 last edited by Jolly 10 Jul 2021, 22:45@doctor-phibes said in The She-cession:
@jolly said in The She-cession:
I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.
That's easy to understand. If you train somebody they'll learn the skill, then bugger off and go work somewhere else that doesn't train but pays better. The company's are only interested in the short term, and the employees are only interested in the money.
Maybe.
As long as your salary is competitive, it doesn't have to be the best. Not even in the top half.
Have a good place to work, where effort is recognized and rewarded and most of the people work well together, and you'll have few defections.
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@mik said in The She-cession:
When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.
Agreed! I work in IT and have interviewed hundreds of folks over the years to join our team. I’ve come to realize the culture and team fit is almost always the most important aspect. Helps make the job fun, decreases turnover, and as you said, lots of skills can be learned on the job. Not all, but lots.
wrote on 7 Oct 2021, 23:52 last edited by@89th said in The She-cession:
Agreed! I work in IT and have interviewed hundreds of folks over the years to join our team. I’ve come to realize the culture and team fit is almost always the most important aspect.
Careful. A white male saying that is considered a dog whistle for "I only hire white males".
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wrote on 8 Oct 2021, 00:57 last edited by
@mik said in The She-cession:
It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.
Technology still not good at screening for work ethics, initiative, and soft skills.
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wrote on 8 Oct 2021, 02:25 last edited by
No, that takes careful interviewing, empathy and perception.
You wouldn’t understand.
