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The She-cession

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    How are you gonna keep them in Paris, once they've seen the farm?

    https://www.hrexchangenetwork.com/hr-talent-acquisition/articles/the-great-resignation-how-to-get-women-back-to-work

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    Help may be on the way from the government. U.S. President Joe Biden has tagged $650 billion for childcare programs, universal pre-K, and to establish a paid family and medical leave program. This proposal is being considered by Congress. If it passes, it could have a significant effect on the recruitment of women.

    A large investment in childcare could pave the way for working mothers to return to the office. Offering FMLA—whether paid or unpaid—will ensure that a woman's job is protected in a medical emergency and that she can continue accessing her health benefits.

    We're from the government and we're here to help you.😉 If these women can afford it, I have faith that they will be better mothers to their children than the government sponsored daycare. Let them re-enter the workforce as they wish.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      And while we're at it, I might as well beat on another favorite subject of mine - new hire training.

      At one time, companies would invest in employees by training them. Welding, machinists, pipefitters, carpenters, etc. I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.

      Want to be a pharmacy or OR tech? Fine, start as a registration clerk on the nightshift and show us something. Next stop, we'll teach you medical terminology and make a scribe out of you. Perform well, and we'll make an ER tech out of you. Next stop, EMT, OR tech or Pharmacy tech training. Or maybe a job in medical records.

      Want more formal training outside of the hospital? Sign this paper and agree to one year's service for every year of community college we pay for.

      That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        And while we're at it, I might as well beat on another favorite subject of mine - new hire training.

        At one time, companies would invest in employees by training them. Welding, machinists, pipefitters, carpenters, etc. I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.

        Want to be a pharmacy or OR tech? Fine, start as a registration clerk on the nightshift and show us something. Next stop, we'll teach you medical terminology and make a scribe out of you. Perform well, and we'll make an ER tech out of you. Next stop, EMT, OR tech or Pharmacy tech training. Or maybe a job in medical records.

        Want more formal training outside of the hospital? Sign this paper and agree to one year's service for every year of community college we pay for.

        That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.

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        @jolly said in The She-cession:

        That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.

        Time. They'll only hire people who already have the job. It's stupid, but it's the standard in a lot of fields.

        Please love yourself.

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          When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            And while we're at it, I might as well beat on another favorite subject of mine - new hire training.

            At one time, companies would invest in employees by training them. Welding, machinists, pipefitters, carpenters, etc. I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.

            Want to be a pharmacy or OR tech? Fine, start as a registration clerk on the nightshift and show us something. Next stop, we'll teach you medical terminology and make a scribe out of you. Perform well, and we'll make an ER tech out of you. Next stop, EMT, OR tech or Pharmacy tech training. Or maybe a job in medical records.

            Want more formal training outside of the hospital? Sign this paper and agree to one year's service for every year of community college we pay for.

            That's just the hospital. I suspect lots of fields could do the same.

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            @jolly said in The She-cession:

            I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.

            That's easy to understand. If you train somebody they'll learn the skill, then bugger off and go work somewhere else that doesn't train but pays better. The company's are only interested in the short term, and the employees are only interested in the money.

            I was only joking

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            • MikM Mik

              When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.

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              @mik said in The She-cession:

              When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.

              Agreed! I work in IT and have interviewed hundreds of folks over the years to join our team. I’ve come to realize the culture and team fit is almost always the most important aspect. Helps make the job fun, decreases turnover, and as you said, lots of skills can be learned on the job. Not all, but lots.

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                @jolly said in The She-cession:

                I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.

                That's easy to understand. If you train somebody they'll learn the skill, then bugger off and go work somewhere else that doesn't train but pays better. The company's are only interested in the short term, and the employees are only interested in the money.

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                @doctor-phibes said in The She-cession:

                @jolly said in The She-cession:

                I don't understand why we don't do the same thing today, especially for guys or gals who would start at the bottom and work their way up.

                That's easy to understand. If you train somebody they'll learn the skill, then bugger off and go work somewhere else that doesn't train but pays better. The company's are only interested in the short term, and the employees are only interested in the money.

                Maybe.

                As long as your salary is competitive, it doesn't have to be the best. Not even in the top half.

                Have a good place to work, where effort is recognized and rewarded and most of the people work well together, and you'll have few defections.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @mik said in The She-cession:

                  When I was in charge of hiring I always stuck by the fact that I can teach someone any technology. It's just not that hard. It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.

                  Agreed! I work in IT and have interviewed hundreds of folks over the years to join our team. I’ve come to realize the culture and team fit is almost always the most important aspect. Helps make the job fun, decreases turnover, and as you said, lots of skills can be learned on the job. Not all, but lots.

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                  @89th said in The She-cession:

                  Agreed! I work in IT and have interviewed hundreds of folks over the years to join our team. I’ve come to realize the culture and team fit is almost always the most important aspect.

                  Careful. A white male saying that is considered a dog whistle for "I only hire white males".

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    @mik said in The She-cession:

                    It is far more difficult to teach them a work ethic, initiative, soft skills.

                    Technology still not good at screening for work ethics, initiative, and soft skills.

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                      No, that takes careful interviewing, empathy and perception.

                      You wouldn’t understand. 😁

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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