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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @george-k said in Inflation:

    Silly Psaki.

    Yes, meat conglomerates are a problem. I've spoken before about what guys are getting for their beef. That's why a rancher -owned meat processing plant is being built in the Midwest.

    But they're not the main problem. Ask any grain farmer about the price and scarcity of seed. The cost of fertilizer. The cost of fuel. The cost of equipment (if you can get it) and the cost of labor.

    That's why feed has gotten so high in price. Trucks and fuel to ship cattle are more expensive. And even cowboys ain't cheap.🤠

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    @jolly said in Inflation:

    Silly Psaki.

    Screen Shot 2021-12-14 at 6.25.13 PM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Conglomerates are bad

      They probably like Trump

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        George K
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        7.5%.

        https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

        The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increased 0.6 percent in January on a seasonally adjusted basis, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Over the last 12 months, the all items index increased 7.5 percent before seasonal adjustment.

        Increases in the indexes for food, electricity, and shelter were the largest contributors to the seasonally adjusted all items increase. The food index rose 0.9 percent in January following a 0.5-percent increase in December. The energy
        index also increased 0.9 percent over the month, with an increase in theelectricity index being partially offset by declines in the gasoline index and the natural gas index.

        The index for all items less food and energy rose 0.6percent in January, the same increase as in December. This was the seventh time in the last 10 months it has increased at least 0.5 percent. Along with the index for shelter, the indexes for household furnishings and operations, used cars and trucks, medical care, and apparel were among many indexes that increased over the month.

        The all items index rose 7.5 percent for the 12 months ending January, the largest 12-month increase since the period ending February 1982. The all items less food and energy index rose 6.0 percent, the largest 12-month change since the period ending August 1982. The energy index rose 27.0 percent over the last year, and the food index increased 7.0 percent.

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Just a SWAG, but I suspect even those numbers a smidgen. I would guess closer to 10%, rather than 7.5%.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            CPI Inflation Rate Hits Scorching 7.5%; Dow Jones Slides On Fed Rate-Hike Views

            The consumer price index came in hotter than expected in January, as both the CPI inflation rate and the core rate, excluding food and energy, hit new 39-year highs. Dow Jones industrial average and Nasdaq losses deepened in Thursday afternoon stock market action as Wall Street priced in additional Fed rate hikes. Meanwhile, the 10-year Treasury yield crested 2% for the first time since August 2019 and kept on rising.

            https://www.investors.com/news/economy/cpi-inflation-rate-hotter-than-expected-in-january-dow-jones-falls-bond-yields-rise/

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Just a SWAG, but I suspect even those numbers a smidgen. I would guess closer to 10%, rather than 7.5%.

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              @jolly said in Inflation:

              Just a SWAG, but I suspect even those numbers a smidgen. I would guess closer to 10%, rather than 7.5%.

              They changed the formula this month, don’t ya know?

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                Snowballing. In order to pay sales staff, technicians, and movers enough to maintain their equivalent income while also accounting for higher overhead for store supplies and higher energy costs, I have to raise my margins which will raise the prices further, and that’s before I get my price increases from the manufacturers…

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  Snowballing. In order to pay sales staff, technicians, and movers enough to maintain their equivalent income while also accounting for higher overhead for store supplies and higher energy costs, I have to raise my margins which will raise the prices further, and that’s before I get my price increases from the manufacturers…

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                  @lufins-dad and the fact that energy (fuel) prices are rising will only increase prices for everything that's dependent upon transportation.

                  Which is...everything.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    89th
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                    #47

                    So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

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                      @89th said in Inflation:

                      So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

                      Federal price controls

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        @89th said in Inflation:

                        So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

                        Federal price controls

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                        @copper said in Inflation:

                        Federal price controls

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Copper
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                          I remember

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            Ah, I remember my 13.25% mortgage fondly.

                            Those were the days....

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Ah, I remember my 13.25% mortgage fondly.

                              Those were the days....

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                              @jolly said in Inflation:

                              I remember my 13.25% mortgage fondly.

                              LOL. That was ours as well, in 1980.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

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                                @89th said in Inflation:

                                So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

                                No, first step is fixing the supply chain. More goods moving will help tremendously. Then we address spending.

                                Though, a rate hike wouldn’t hurt.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @89th said in Inflation:

                                  So, what stops the snowball? Higher fed rates?

                                  No, first step is fixing the supply chain. More goods moving will help tremendously. Then we address spending.

                                  Though, a rate hike wouldn’t hurt.

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                                  @lufins-dad said in Inflation:

                                  Then we address spending.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    A more cynical solution would be to go to war…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      A more cynical solution would be to go to war…

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Inflation:

                                      A more cynical solution would be to go to war…

                                      Link to video

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        89th
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                                        Best investment strategy for cash during a period of inflation? Certainly if the rates go up then savings accounts (and CDs, bonds, etc) all would be more attractive than the current 0.05% rates out there.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Best investment strategy for cash during a period of inflation? Certainly if the rates go up then savings accounts (and CDs, bonds, etc) all would be more attractive than the current 0.05% rates out there.

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                                          @89th said in Inflation:

                                          Best investment strategy for cash during a period of inflation? Certainly if the rates go up then savings accounts (and CDs, bonds, etc) all would be more attractive than the current 0.05% rates out there.

                                          Yeah, but what you get, still won't keep up with inflation.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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