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  • M Away
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    Mik
    wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 21:34 last edited by
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    It was the best speech he has given to date.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      9 Sept 2021, 21:34

      It was the best speech he has given to date.

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      George K
      wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 21:37 last edited by
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      @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

      It was the best speech he has given to date.

      Lots of speechifying, little substance as to how he's going to implement this.

      REmember, he's the guy that said, during the campaign, that he wouldn't trust a vaccine developed while Trump was president.

      Were you wrong then, or are you wrong now, Joe?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 21:39 last edited by
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        Another thing.

        (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

        By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Mik
          wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:13 last edited by
          #15

          I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:26 last edited by
            #16

            I agree as a pragmatic matter. Good luck with enforcement.

            Please love yourself.

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            • M Mik
              9 Sept 2021, 22:13

              I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:28 last edited by
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              @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

              That has a direct impact on my company. We have service contracts in place with several Military Bands, Walter Reed, NIH, and routinely sell or rent instruments to the government. Everybody that has involvement with those projects (me, the operations manager, technician/tuner, and delivery crew are all vaccinated but none of us like the idea of being forced to be vaccinated and forcing our staff to be vaccinated.

              The Brad

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                Mik
                wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:31 last edited by
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                I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • M Mik
                  9 Sept 2021, 22:31

                  I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:32 last edited by
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                  @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                  I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

                  Count on it. Gonna be a yuge huge mess.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:41 last edited by
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                    "Our patience is wearing thin."

                    Uniter, not a divider.

                    Nice.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:43 last edited by LuFins Dad 9 Sept 2021, 22:45
                      #21

                      I thought we were supposed to be approaching Herd Immunity according to the CDC? The southern surge is dropping, we can expect a few more Delta surges elsewhere in the country, but the Boosters to the most at risk should mitigate the effects. Is this a solution in search of a problem?

                      The Brad

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                        George K
                        wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:47 last edited by
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                        President Trump said, regarding immigration: ""If these governors won’t help beat the pandemic illegal border crossings, I’ll use my power as president to get them out of the way."

                        Oh, wait.

                        That was 2 hours ago.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • M Mik
                          9 Sept 2021, 20:32

                          Details.

                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/09/09/biden-to-order-vaccine-or-test-mandate-for-businesses-with-over-100-workers/?sh=53238351e817

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:53 last edited by Loki 9 Sept 2021, 22:54
                          #23

                          Provides cover for companies to issue their own mandates.

                          I don’t really see this as news, the train left the station weeks ago. As more people get vaccinated schools will be able to stay open, less people will die and healthcare institutions will be able to address the needs of their employees and patients much better. Wins all around. If the goal is to eliminate all naysayers in life you will never succeed, you just need our institutions rowing in the same direction.

                          Mostly this is about stemming the slide in the polls.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:57 last edited by
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                            Democrats seem to like the president's ideas about vaccines

                            Republicans don't seem to like them

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 00:06 last edited by
                              #25

                              Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                              The Brad

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                                10 Sept 2021, 00:06

                                Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 00:46 last edited by
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                                @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                                He is literally treating American anti-vaxxers with more hostility. He sure as hell isn't calling the latter his "partners."

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:03 last edited by
                                  #27

                                  I don’t think this ends a bit worse than doofuses taking selfies

                                  The Brad

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    9 Sept 2021, 20:47

                                    Wow.

                                    I hope this brings @Loki back...

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:15 last edited by
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                                    @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                    Wow.

                                    I hope this brings @Loki back...

                                    Loki made an exit? I must have missed it.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • G George K
                                      9 Sept 2021, 21:39

                                      Another thing.

                                      (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                      By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:17 last edited by
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                                      @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                      Another thing.

                                      (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                      By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                                      And he's going to lose.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        10 Sept 2021, 01:17

                                        @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                        Another thing.

                                        (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                        By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                                        And he's going to lose.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:22 last edited by
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                                        @jolly said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                        @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                        Another thing.

                                        (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                        By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                                        And he's going to lose.

                                        But it will cause a tremendous amount of problems for a lot of people in the meantime.

                                        The Brad

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:24 last edited by
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                                          Of course. Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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