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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #16

      I agree as a pragmatic matter. Good luck with enforcement.

      Please love yourself.

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      • MikM Mik

        I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

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        LuFins Dad
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        #17

        @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

        I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

        That has a direct impact on my company. We have service contracts in place with several Military Bands, Walter Reed, NIH, and routinely sell or rent instruments to the government. Everybody that has involvement with those projects (me, the operations manager, technician/tuner, and delivery crew are all vaccinated but none of us like the idea of being forced to be vaccinated and forcing our staff to be vaccinated.

        The Brad

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        • MikM Offline
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          #18

          I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

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            George K
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            #19

            @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

            I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

            Count on it. Gonna be a yuge huge mess.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #20

              "Our patience is wearing thin."

              Uniter, not a divider.

              Nice.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                #21

                I thought we were supposed to be approaching Herd Immunity according to the CDC? The southern surge is dropping, we can expect a few more Delta surges elsewhere in the country, but the Boosters to the most at risk should mitigate the effects. Is this a solution in search of a problem?

                The Brad

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #22

                  President Trump said, regarding immigration: ""If these governors won’t help beat the pandemic illegal border crossings, I’ll use my power as president to get them out of the way."

                  Oh, wait.

                  That was 2 hours ago.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Details.

                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/09/09/biden-to-order-vaccine-or-test-mandate-for-businesses-with-over-100-workers/?sh=53238351e817

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                    Loki
                    wrote on last edited by Loki
                    #23

                    Provides cover for companies to issue their own mandates.

                    I don’t really see this as news, the train left the station weeks ago. As more people get vaccinated schools will be able to stay open, less people will die and healthcare institutions will be able to address the needs of their employees and patients much better. Wins all around. If the goal is to eliminate all naysayers in life you will never succeed, you just need our institutions rowing in the same direction.

                    Mostly this is about stemming the slide in the polls.

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                      Democrats seem to like the president's ideas about vaccines

                      Republicans don't seem to like them

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #25

                        Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                          Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                          He is literally treating American anti-vaxxers with more hostility. He sure as hell isn't calling the latter his "partners."

                          Please love yourself.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            #27

                            I don’t think this ends a bit worse than doofuses taking selfies

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Wow.

                              I hope this brings @Loki back...

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #28

                              @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                              Wow.

                              I hope this brings @Loki back...

                              Loki made an exit? I must have missed it.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG George K

                                Another thing.

                                (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

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                                @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                Another thing.

                                (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                                And he's going to lose.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  Another thing.

                                  (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                  By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                                  And he's going to lose.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @jolly said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  Another thing.

                                  (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                                  By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                                  And he's going to lose.

                                  But it will cause a tremendous amount of problems for a lot of people in the meantime.

                                  The Brad

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #31

                                    Of course. Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      #32

                                      He betrays and abandons Americans, NATO allies, and our Afghan Allies… He excuses away the Americans left behind because they have dual citizenships… He praises actual terrorists and threatens 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens less than three days after the CDC gave very encouraging news, two days after we got great news about the effectiveness of natural immunity, and after a month of significant improvements in vaccination numbers.

                                      This guy is a disaster.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #33

                                        Today was all about approval ratings and moving the focus off Afghanistan.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          He betrays and abandons Americans, NATO allies, and our Afghan Allies… He excuses away the Americans left behind because they have dual citizenships… He praises actual terrorists and threatens 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens less than three days after the CDC gave very encouraging news, two days after we got great news about the effectiveness of natural immunity, and after a month of significant improvements in vaccination numbers.

                                          This guy is a disaster.

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                          He .. threatens 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens ...

                                          Kindly elaborate on how he "threatened 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens." Thanks.

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