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Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees

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    Mik
    wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:31 last edited by
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    I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      9 Sept 2021, 22:31

      I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

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      George K
      wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:32 last edited by
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      @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

      I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

      Count on it. Gonna be a yuge huge mess.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:41 last edited by
        #20

        "Our patience is wearing thin."

        Uniter, not a divider.

        Nice.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:43 last edited by LuFins Dad 9 Sept 2021, 22:45
          #21

          I thought we were supposed to be approaching Herd Immunity according to the CDC? The southern surge is dropping, we can expect a few more Delta surges elsewhere in the country, but the Boosters to the most at risk should mitigate the effects. Is this a solution in search of a problem?

          The Brad

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            George K
            wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:47 last edited by
            #22

            President Trump said, regarding immigration: ""If these governors won’t help beat the pandemic illegal border crossings, I’ll use my power as president to get them out of the way."

            Oh, wait.

            That was 2 hours ago.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • M Mik
              9 Sept 2021, 20:32

              Details.

              https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/09/09/biden-to-order-vaccine-or-test-mandate-for-businesses-with-over-100-workers/?sh=53238351e817

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              Loki
              wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:53 last edited by Loki 9 Sept 2021, 22:54
              #23

              Provides cover for companies to issue their own mandates.

              I don’t really see this as news, the train left the station weeks ago. As more people get vaccinated schools will be able to stay open, less people will die and healthcare institutions will be able to address the needs of their employees and patients much better. Wins all around. If the goal is to eliminate all naysayers in life you will never succeed, you just need our institutions rowing in the same direction.

              Mostly this is about stemming the slide in the polls.

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                Copper
                wrote on 9 Sept 2021, 22:57 last edited by
                #24

                Democrats seem to like the president's ideas about vaccines

                Republicans don't seem to like them

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 00:06 last edited by
                  #25

                  Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                  The Brad

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    10 Sept 2021, 00:06

                    Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 00:46 last edited by
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                    @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                    He is literally treating American anti-vaxxers with more hostility. He sure as hell isn't calling the latter his "partners."

                    Please love yourself.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:03 last edited by
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                      I don’t think this ends a bit worse than doofuses taking selfies

                      The Brad

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        9 Sept 2021, 20:47

                        Wow.

                        I hope this brings @Loki back...

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:15 last edited by
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                        @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                        Wow.

                        I hope this brings @Loki back...

                        Loki made an exit? I must have missed it.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • G George K
                          9 Sept 2021, 21:39

                          Another thing.

                          (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                          By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:17 last edited by
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                          @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                          Another thing.

                          (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                          By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                          And he's going to lose.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            10 Sept 2021, 01:17

                            @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            Another thing.

                            (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                            By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                            And he's going to lose.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:22 last edited by
                            #30

                            @jolly said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            Another thing.

                            (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                            By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                            And he's going to lose.

                            But it will cause a tremendous amount of problems for a lot of people in the meantime.

                            The Brad

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:24 last edited by
                              #31

                              Of course. Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:31 last edited by
                                #32

                                He betrays and abandons Americans, NATO allies, and our Afghan Allies… He excuses away the Americans left behind because they have dual citizenships… He praises actual terrorists and threatens 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens less than three days after the CDC gave very encouraging news, two days after we got great news about the effectiveness of natural immunity, and after a month of significant improvements in vaccination numbers.

                                This guy is a disaster.

                                The Brad

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:35 last edited by
                                  #33

                                  Today was all about approval ratings and moving the focus off Afghanistan.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    10 Sept 2021, 01:31

                                    He betrays and abandons Americans, NATO allies, and our Afghan Allies… He excuses away the Americans left behind because they have dual citizenships… He praises actual terrorists and threatens 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens less than three days after the CDC gave very encouraging news, two days after we got great news about the effectiveness of natural immunity, and after a month of significant improvements in vaccination numbers.

                                    This guy is a disaster.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 01:38 last edited by
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                                    @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                    He .. threatens 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens ...

                                    Kindly elaborate on how he "threatened 80,000,000 of his fellow citizens." Thanks.

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                                    • M Mik
                                      10 Sept 2021, 01:35

                                      Today was all about approval ratings and moving the focus off Afghanistan.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 02:04 last edited by
                                      #35

                                      @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                      Today was all about approval ratings and moving the focus off Afghanistan.

                                      Yep.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 02:08 last edited by Mik 9 Oct 2021, 02:09
                                        #36

                                        He’s hoping if the anti vax crowd starts screaming about this it changes the subject to something where more will support him. I have to say it was probably the most skillful move his team has made yet.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          10 Sept 2021, 02:08

                                          He’s hoping if the anti vax crowd starts screaming about this it changes the subject to something where more will support him. I have to say it was probably the most skillful move his team has made yet.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 02:10 last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                          He’s hoping if the anti vax crowd starts screaming about this it changes the subject to something where more will support him. I have to say it was probably the most skillful move his team has made yet.

                                          I’m still trying to figure out what the win is to fight.

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