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  • CopperC Offline
    CopperC Offline
    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-professor-lawsuit-vaccine-mandate-natural-immunity

    California professor sues over vaccine mandate, says he has natural immunity

    Duh

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      And that's actually the weakest argument.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #8

        It would actually be more legitimate for him to just demand everybody either be vaccinated or tested regardless of the status of employment. And frankly, there are enough breakthrough cases that they should really demand 100% testing, period.

        The Brad

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        • MikM Mik

          And that's actually the weakest argument.

          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

          And that's actually the weakest argument.

          Which is?

          The Brad

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          • MikM Mik

            And that's actually the weakest argument.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by Copper
            #10

            @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

            And that's actually the weakest argument.

            Superhuman

            https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/07/1033677208/new-studies-find-evidence-of-superhuman-immunity-to-covid-19-in-some-individuals

            New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some Individuals

            Some scientists have called it "superhuman immunity" or "bulletproof." But immunologist Shane Crotty prefers "hybrid immunity."

            "Overall, hybrid immunity to SARS-CoV-2 appears to be impressively potent," Crotty wrote in commentary in Science back in June.

            No matter what you call it, this type of immunity offers much-needed good news in what seems like an endless array of bad news regarding COVID-19.

            Over the past several months, a series of studies has found that some people mount an extraordinarily powerful immune response against SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes the disease COVID-19. Their bodies produce very high levels of antibodies, but they also make antibodies with great flexibility — likely capable of fighting off the coronavirus variants circulating in the world but also likely effective against variants that may emerge in the future.

            Immunity To COVID-19 Could Last Longer Than You'd Think

            GOATS AND SODA

            Immunity To COVID-19 Could Last Longer Than You'd Think

            "One could reasonably predict that these people will be quite well protected against most — and perhaps all of — the SARS-CoV-2 variants that we are likely to see in the foreseeable future," says Paul Bieniasz, a virologist at Rockefeller University who helped lead several of the studies.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #11

              "The virus doesn't respect borders."

              LOLGF

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                It was the best speech he has given to date.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  It was the best speech he has given to date.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                  It was the best speech he has given to date.

                  Lots of speechifying, little substance as to how he's going to implement this.

                  REmember, he's the guy that said, during the campaign, that he wouldn't trust a vaccine developed while Trump was president.

                  Were you wrong then, or are you wrong now, Joe?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    Another thing.

                    (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                    By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #16

                        I agree as a pragmatic matter. Good luck with enforcement.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                          I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

                          That has a direct impact on my company. We have service contracts in place with several Military Bands, Walter Reed, NIH, and routinely sell or rent instruments to the government. Everybody that has involvement with those projects (me, the operations manager, technician/tuner, and delivery crew are all vaccinated but none of us like the idea of being forced to be vaccinated and forcing our staff to be vaccinated.

                          The Brad

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #18

                            I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                              I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

                              Count on it. Gonna be a yuge huge mess.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                "Our patience is wearing thin."

                                Uniter, not a divider.

                                Nice.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by LuFins Dad
                                  #21

                                  I thought we were supposed to be approaching Herd Immunity according to the CDC? The southern surge is dropping, we can expect a few more Delta surges elsewhere in the country, but the Boosters to the most at risk should mitigate the effects. Is this a solution in search of a problem?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    President Trump said, regarding immigration: ""If these governors won’t help beat the pandemic illegal border crossings, I’ll use my power as president to get them out of the way."

                                    Oh, wait.

                                    That was 2 hours ago.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Details.

                                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/09/09/biden-to-order-vaccine-or-test-mandate-for-businesses-with-over-100-workers/?sh=53238351e817

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on last edited by Loki
                                      #23

                                      Provides cover for companies to issue their own mandates.

                                      I don’t really see this as news, the train left the station weeks ago. As more people get vaccinated schools will be able to stay open, less people will die and healthcare institutions will be able to address the needs of their employees and patients much better. Wins all around. If the goal is to eliminate all naysayers in life you will never succeed, you just need our institutions rowing in the same direction.

                                      Mostly this is about stemming the slide in the polls.

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                                      • CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        Democrats seem to like the president's ideas about vaccines

                                        Republicans don't seem to like them

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          #25

                                          Imagine if he had been that angry against the Taliban?

                                          The Brad

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