Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees
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@george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Oh, and remember, this man, who, while candidate for the presidency, said that he doubted he had the authority to establish a mask mandate.
Again, I'm not disputing that it's a good idea, I'm just wearing my pretend lawyer hat.
I’ll dispute it being a good idea. It’s the worst idea ever, IMO. I don’t mean masking, and I don’t mean vaccinating… Vaccinating is a fucking great idea and masking doesn’t hurt… Mandating it? Worst idea ever.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Seen on twitter.
Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?
Now check that proportionally against the general makeup of the US.
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@lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Significant Minority? 80,000,000 unvaccinated adults. Another 25,000,000 that avoided the vaccine until the last month. Where do you think they fall into the debate? Then, how many people that are like me, Copper, Horace, Jolly? People that gladly chose to be vaccinated but are deadset against having people strong armed into it? How many people like George and Mik, that aren’t as deadset against it as I am, but still find it to be overreach and likely illegal?
You may be wrong about the minority opinion.
You might even get Trump back.
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@lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
@george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Seen on twitter.
Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?
Now check that proportionally against the general makeup of the US.
Agree.
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@lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
deadset
FWIW I’m very much against vaccines being required, and in this case it’s a significant abuse of power from the executive branch.
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Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...
So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?
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@lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...
So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?
I've done one COVID test today. Saturday before last, I did 20.
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Conresscritters and other congressional employees are exempt.
USPS is “considering” whether to comply.
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@lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...
So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?
This is definitely one reason why.https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-man-dies-cardiac-event-223018300.html
The family of a man who died of heart issues in Mississippi is asking people to get vaccinated for COVID-19 after 43 hospitals across three states were unable to accept him because of full cardiac ICUs. -
"My pronouns are FA/FO." - Mik, 2024
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@mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
Delta is making its way through other states Ohio is showing very high numbers and climbing.
Yes, There are a few areas where it is still growing (Ohio and Idaho pop to mind) but most states have leveled off.
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UAB retracted their mandate after it became evident they were going to have a large portion of their staff walk out of the hospital. I've read about the same thing happening in other places.
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Besides, it's all political.
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Here’s my question… The biggest threat about the hospital systems being overrun is manpower, no? That’s the biggest resource that’s in shortest supply, right? So they’ve really pushed on this mandate for healthcare workers and my understanding is that the workers aren’t budging. So are they really going to force out 25% of the healthcare workers when we need them the most? That hits me as the height of stupidity.
If I’m in an accident this afternoon, I’d rather have unvaxxed healthcare workers taking care of me than vaccinated workers that are stretched too thin.
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@mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:
On the day after Biden threatened people's livelihoods if they don't take the shot.
This is a testing mandate ultimately. It’s just that a vaccine exempts you.
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I moved to the U.S. for school. I didn't have great vaccination records (moved around a bunch, paper records). One of the first things the school made me do was get about 5 shots before I could register for classes.
I associate the U.S. with vaccine mandates.
