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    George K
    wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 21:07 last edited by
    #99

    Oh, and remember, this man, who, while candidate for the presidency, said that he doubted he had the authority to establish a mask mandate.

    Again, I'm not disputing that it's a good idea, I'm just wearing my pretend lawyer hat.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      10 Sept 2021, 21:07

      Oh, and remember, this man, who, while candidate for the presidency, said that he doubted he had the authority to establish a mask mandate.

      Again, I'm not disputing that it's a good idea, I'm just wearing my pretend lawyer hat.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 21:33 last edited by
      #100

      @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

      Oh, and remember, this man, who, while candidate for the presidency, said that he doubted he had the authority to establish a mask mandate.

      Again, I'm not disputing that it's a good idea, I'm just wearing my pretend lawyer hat.

      I’ll dispute it being a good idea. It’s the worst idea ever, IMO. I don’t mean masking, and I don’t mean vaccinating… Vaccinating is a fucking great idea and masking doesn’t hurt… Mandating it? Worst idea ever.

      The Brad

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        George K
        wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 22:41 last edited by
        #101

        Seen on twitter.

        alt text

        Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          10 Sept 2021, 22:41

          Seen on twitter.

          alt text

          Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 22:45 last edited by
          #102

          @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

          Seen on twitter.

          alt text

          Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?

          Now check that proportionally against the general makeup of the US.

          The Brad

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          • L LuFins Dad
            10 Sept 2021, 16:44

            Significant Minority? 80,000,000 unvaccinated adults. Another 25,000,000 that avoided the vaccine until the last month. Where do you think they fall into the debate? Then, how many people that are like me, Copper, Horace, Jolly? People that gladly chose to be vaccinated but are deadset against having people strong armed into it? How many people like George and Mik, that aren’t as deadset against it as I am, but still find it to be overreach and likely illegal?

            You may be wrong about the minority opinion.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 10 Sept 2021, 23:21 last edited by
            #103

            @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

            Significant Minority? 80,000,000 unvaccinated adults. Another 25,000,000 that avoided the vaccine until the last month. Where do you think they fall into the debate? Then, how many people that are like me, Copper, Horace, Jolly? People that gladly chose to be vaccinated but are deadset against having people strong armed into it? How many people like George and Mik, that aren’t as deadset against it as I am, but still find it to be overreach and likely illegal?

            You may be wrong about the minority opinion.

            You might even get Trump back.😊😊

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • L LuFins Dad
              10 Sept 2021, 22:45

              @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              Seen on twitter.

              alt text

              Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?

              Now check that proportionally against the general makeup of the US.

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              Loki
              wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 01:28 last edited by
              #104

              @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              Seen on twitter.

              alt text

              Why does Joe Biden hate poor people?

              Now check that proportionally against the general makeup of the US.

              Agree.

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              • L LuFins Dad
                10 Sept 2021, 16:44

                Significant Minority? 80,000,000 unvaccinated adults. Another 25,000,000 that avoided the vaccine until the last month. Where do you think they fall into the debate? Then, how many people that are like me, Copper, Horace, Jolly? People that gladly chose to be vaccinated but are deadset against having people strong armed into it? How many people like George and Mik, that aren’t as deadset against it as I am, but still find it to be overreach and likely illegal?

                You may be wrong about the minority opinion.

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                89th
                wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 03:19 last edited by
                #105

                @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                deadset

                FWIW I’m very much against vaccines being required, and in this case it’s a significant abuse of power from the executive branch.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 19:22 last edited by
                  #106

                  Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...

                  So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?

                  The Brad

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 19:34 last edited by
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                    Because anything is better than Afghanistan as the lead story.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      11 Sept 2021, 19:22

                      Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...

                      So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 19:52 last edited by
                      #108

                      @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                      Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...

                      So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?

                      I've done one COVID test today. Saturday before last, I did 20.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        George K
                        wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 20:09 last edited by
                        #109

                        Conresscritters and other congressional employees are exempt.

                        https://www.newsweek.com/members-congress-staff-exempt-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-1627859?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1631289096

                        USPS is “considering” whether to comply.

                        https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2021/09/postal-service-takes-wait-and-see-approach-covid-19-vaccine-mandates/185277/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 20:45 last edited by Loki 9 Nov 2021, 20:46
                          #110

                          @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                          Why now? Florida, Louisiana, and Texas have all not just crested, but the numbers are dropping quickly. If you go through the graphs of each state, you'll see that almost all have leveled off or even started to drop despite being 3-4 weeks into the new school year. We're aware of the problems with Delta and the vaccines, and those most at risk are getting their boosters. We've got an effective treatment with Regeneron and access to monoclonal antibodies is increasing. The CDC has estimated that we are getting close to herd immunity and we've vaccinated another 10% of the population over the last 45 days or so. We're just starting to see the daylight from the Delta scare. I'm not saying we're out of the woods, Mu and Lamda are out there, but a vaccine mandate ain't going to do squat with those...

                          So why go all macho bigboy pants now? Is it because they know the numbers are going to drop regardless and they want to have some action that they can point to to try and take credit?
                          This is definitely one reason why.

                          https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-man-dies-cardiac-event-223018300.html
                          The family of a man who died of heart issues in Mississippi is asking people to get vaccinated for COVID-19 after 43 hospitals across three states were unable to accept him because of full cardiac ICUs.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 20:57 last edited by
                            #111

                            Delta is making its way through other states Ohio is showing very high numbers and climbing.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik
                              11 Sept 2021, 20:57

                              Delta is making its way through other states Ohio is showing very high numbers and climbing.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 11 Sept 2021, 21:02 last edited by
                              #112

                              @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                              Delta is making its way through other states Ohio is showing very high numbers and climbing.

                              Yes, There are a few areas where it is still growing (Ohio and Idaho pop to mind) but most states have leveled off.

                              The Brad

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 12 Sept 2021, 01:20 last edited by
                                #113

                                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/09/10/cullman-al-man-dies-hospitals-full-icus-turn-away-covid/8281712002/

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 07:29 last edited by
                                  #114

                                  It's been almost 2 weeks and there's still nothing from OSHA about this.

                                  The fierce urgency of "soon."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 10:45 last edited by
                                    #115

                                    UAB retracted their mandate after it became evident they were going to have a large portion of their staff walk out of the hospital. I've read about the same thing happening in other places.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 10:45 last edited by
                                      #116

                                      Besides, it's all political.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 11:38 last edited by
                                        #117

                                        Here’s my question… The biggest threat about the hospital systems being overrun is manpower, no? That’s the biggest resource that’s in shortest supply, right? So they’ve really pushed on this mandate for healthcare workers and my understanding is that the workers aren’t budging. So are they really going to force out 25% of the healthcare workers when we need them the most? That hits me as the height of stupidity.

                                        If I’m in an accident this afternoon, I’d rather have unvaxxed healthcare workers taking care of me than vaccinated workers that are stretched too thin.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • MikM Mik
                                          10 Sept 2021, 15:00

                                          Also interesting was that he condemned the GOP's slide toward authoritarianism.

                                          On the day after Biden threatened people's livelihoods if they don't take the shot. Jesus, he is blinded.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 22 Sept 2021, 11:51 last edited by jon-nyc
                                          #118

                                          @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                          On the day after Biden threatened people's livelihoods if they don't take the shot.

                                          This is a testing mandate ultimately. It’s just that a vaccine exempts you.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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