When everyone tweets the same thing....
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Agreed.
Nationally, we are seeing an uptick in new cases but still below what we had in April, so nothing too alarming. Also this is new cases... the charts for deaths is still nearly flat.
And that is nationally... if you dig into a state (like Minnesota) there's not much of an increase at all. Same with Ohio... Virginia... But you definitely see an increase in states like Alabama. Probably due to anti-vax sentiment?
@89th said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
Agreed.
Nationally, we are seeing an uptick in new cases but still below what we had in April, so nothing too alarming. Also this is new cases... the charts for deaths is still nearly flat.
Deaths fall behind new cases by several weeks. We wouldn't see a surge in deaths yet if they were coming.
And that is nationally... if you dig into a state (like Minnesota) there's not much of an increase at all. Same with Ohio... Virginia... But you definitely see an increase in states like Alabama. Probably due to anti-vax sentiment?
Population density, how much traffic they receive from out-of-towners, the percentage of low-income households, and percent vaccinated are all important factors.
Please love yourself.
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@89th said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
Agreed.
Nationally, we are seeing an uptick in new cases but still below what we had in April, so nothing too alarming. Also this is new cases... the charts for deaths is still nearly flat.
Deaths fall behind new cases by several weeks. We wouldn't see a surge in deaths yet if they were coming.
And that is nationally... if you dig into a state (like Minnesota) there's not much of an increase at all. Same with Ohio... Virginia... But you definitely see an increase in states like Alabama. Probably due to anti-vax sentiment?
Population density, how much traffic they receive from out-of-towners, the percentage of low-income households, and percent vaccinated are all important factors.
@aqua-letifer Fair points
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I look at hospitalization data.
Every major healthcare organization lobbied for mandatory vaccinations for all healthcare workers. That’s for a reason. Maybe the vax made them zombies for the deep state.
I realize I am self righteous for pointing out what is scientifically obvious.
Ivermectin the hero of some has 2000 patients world wide studied while vaccines have a study group that is the largest in the history of mankind.
If we can’t see what is obvious here we have to have more deaths and more lock downs, more masks, more booster shots and a slowing economy until people can see.
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Yeah - I wish people would just get vaccinated already. For selfish reasons.
I've been doing a lot of work thinking about re-opening our office.
Now there's talk of backtracking.
Just a waste of human capital and effort.
I get people have concerns about the vaccine... but they work... people need to get over themselves.. for the good of the country.
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I’m not exposed to any anti vaccine messaging so I always struggle to find it to be the important boogeyman regarding vax rates. I wonder what the rate would be, absent whatever FB anti vaxers and their allegedly broad cultural sway. I mean even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines.
Education is extremely important.
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Agreed.
Nationally, we are seeing an uptick in new cases but still below what we had in April, so nothing too alarming. Also this is new cases... the charts for deaths is still nearly flat.
And that is nationally... if you dig into a state (like Minnesota) there's not much of an increase at all. Same with Ohio... Virginia... But you definitely see an increase in states like Alabama. Probably due to anti-vax sentiment?
@89th said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
And that is nationally... if you dig into a state (like Minnesota) there's not much of an increase at all. Same with Ohio... Virginia... But you definitely see an increase in states like Alabama. Probably due to anti-vax sentiment?
Could be regional/seasonal. Same thing happened last year, the south ramped up in summer, the north not until late fall.
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I’m not exposed to any anti vaccine messaging so I always struggle to find it to be the important boogeyman regarding vax rates. I wonder what the rate would be, absent whatever FB anti vaxers and their allegedly broad cultural sway. I mean even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines.
@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
I’m not exposed to any anti vaccine messaging so I always struggle to find it to be the important boogeyman regarding vax rates. I wonder what the rate would be, absent whatever FB anti vaxers and their allegedly broad cultural sway. I mean even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines.
Yep. I have asked people I know what their calculation on risk vs. reward is and no one has been able to put anything coherent to it. But they post memes about sheep and comparing the vaccinated to Nazi era Jews being loaded onto rail cars.
If you believe...
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I’m not exposed to any anti vaccine messaging so I always struggle to find it to be the important boogeyman regarding vax rates. I wonder what the rate would be, absent whatever FB anti vaxers and their allegedly broad cultural sway. I mean even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines.
@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
I’m not exposed to any anti vaccine messaging so I always struggle to find it to be the important boogeyman regarding vax rates. I wonder what the rate would be, absent whatever FB anti vaxers and their allegedly broad cultural sway. I mean even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines.
Your experience is not mine. At all.
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I’m not exposed to any anti vaccine messaging so I always struggle to find it to be the important boogeyman regarding vax rates. I wonder what the rate would be, absent whatever FB anti vaxers and their allegedly broad cultural sway. I mean even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines.
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The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Surveys also show a thirty point spread between GOP and democrats on willingness to get the vaccine. Any explanation for that?
I do agree that Trump was amazing with Operation Warp Speed. Too bad he isn’t following up now.
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The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Surveys also show a thirty point spread between GOP and democrats on willingness to get the vaccine. Any explanation for that?
I do agree that Trump was amazing with Operation Warp Speed. Too bad he isn’t following up now.
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
- Trump conservatives think the government is an asshole.
- Trump conservatives hate being told what to do.
- The government is strongly urging people to get vaccinated, and is entertaining ideas about vaccine passports and mandatory vaccination.
It can't be rationally argued that these are unrelated.
Please love yourself.
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@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
- Trump conservatives think the government is an asshole.
- Trump conservatives hate being told what to do.
- The government is strongly urging people to get vaccinated, and is entertaining ideas about vaccine passports and mandatory vaccination.
It can't be rationally argued that these are unrelated.
@aqua-letifer said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
- Trump conservatives think the government is an asshole.
- Trump conservatives hate being told what to do.
- The government is strongly urging people to get vaccinated, and is entertaining ideas about vaccine passports and mandatory vaccination.
It can't be rationally argued that these are unrelated.
We now have a massive control group and vaccinated group which will be studied and recorded for all of history for all time.
In the short run rhetoric will win the argument and when the truth comes out those people will disappear.
The philosophical question is how much suffering will we bear until we get back to the good old patriotic freedom loving days like with polio where everyone just took the vaccine and we eradicated it.
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I worked last evening at my little rural hospital. We've got four staff out, confirmed COVID. One lab, one respiratory, two nurses.
Three out of four, fully vaccinated.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines
Of course
Obviously
But cnn still will not stop saying Trump and followers are anti-vax
I think some people even believe that
@copper said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
even Trump strongly encouraged vaccines
Of course
Obviously
But cnn still will not stop saying Trump and followers are anti-vax
I think some people even believe that
Trump encouraged vaccines? Why didn't he put some money into that or urge the pharma companies to hurry up?
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I worked last evening at my little rural hospital. We've got four staff out, confirmed COVID. One lab, one respiratory, two nurses.
Three out of four, fully vaccinated.
@jolly said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
I worked last evening at my little rural hospital. We've got four out, confirmed COVID.
Three out of four, fully vaccinated.
Young folks, old folks? Healthy/complications?
Please love yourself.
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The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Surveys also show a thirty point spread between GOP and democrats on willingness to get the vaccine. Any explanation for that?
I do agree that Trump was amazing with Operation Warp Speed. Too bad he isn’t following up now.
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Wait, before we get to alternate explanations for that, what is your primary explanation for that?
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@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Wait, before we get to alternate explanations for that, what is your primary explanation for that?
@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Wait, before we get to alternate explanations for that, what is your primary explanation for that?
It doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what the data shows and is predicted to show. If the data is corrupt or misleading that would be helpful to know.
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@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Wait, before we get to alternate explanations for that, what is your primary explanation for that?
It doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what the data shows and is predicted to show. If the data is corrupt or misleading that would be helpful to know.
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
@horace said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
@loki said in When everyone tweets the same thing....:
The data shows a vast difference between vaccination rates for states that voted for Trump and states that voted for Biden. Is there an alternate explanation for that?
Wait, before we get to alternate explanations for that, what is your primary explanation for that?
It doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what the data shows and is predicted to show. If the data is corrupt or misleading that would be helpful to know.
And the data shows what, again? Are you talking about the correlation between Trump voters and vaccination rates?
