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  • 8 89th
    18 Aug 2021, 13:26

    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

    https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028564790/u-s-is-reviewing-the-deaths-of-people-who-may-have-fallen-from-a-plane-leaving-k

    The U.S. Air Force says its Office of Special Investigations is reviewing an incident at the Kabul airport Monday in which multiple people were killed when hundreds of Afghan civilians desperate to leave the country swarmed a C-17 cargo plane as it was attempting to take off.

    The Air Force did not say how many people died. It said human remains were found in the plane's wheel well after it landed at al-Udeid Air Base in the Gulf state of Qatar.

    Videos of the incident, including images of people falling from the aircraft as it took off, were widely viewed on social media. The images captured the initial chaos of a U.S.-directed evacuation that followed the Taliban's takeover of the country.

    I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

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    George K
    wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 13:27 last edited by
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    @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

    I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

    It's freaking Congress!

    That's what they do.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      18 Aug 2021, 13:27

      @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

      It's freaking Congress!

      That's what they do.

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      Loki
      wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 13:31 last edited by
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      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

      It's freaking Congress!

      That's what they do.

      I never really appreciated how much of the job investigating has become. I have to believe it’s been written about it and it must have to do with the 2 year election cycle.

      I think the House in particular is just a running for election treadmill. It’s aligned nicely with social media, always producing drama, click bait and alleged cliffhangers.

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        18 Aug 2021, 13:31

        @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

        It's freaking Congress!

        That's what they do.

        I never really appreciated how much of the job investigating has become. I have to believe it’s been written about it and it must have to do with the 2 year election cycle.

        I think the House in particular is just a running for election treadmill. It’s aligned nicely with social media, always producing drama, click bait and alleged cliffhangers.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 13:41 last edited by
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        @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        I think the House in particular is just a running for election treadmill. It’s aligned nicely with social media, always producing drama, click bait and alleged cliffhangers.

        Plus you got to remember what 'doing an investigation' could mean. It probably means the Speaker and/or the Majority Leader appoints a committee . . . which meets once, maybe twice if one of the meetings is during lunch and includes Scotch . . . then the committee members are, I dunno, too busy or something . . . then six months go by and people stop asking about it . . . and the public's attention span being what it is, the
        investigation fades into nothing, though it is forcefully claimed to be still ongoing.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          George K
          wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 22:10 last edited by
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          George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

          "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

          He seemed very angry.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            18 Aug 2021, 22:10

            George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

            "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

            He seemed very angry.

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            Copper
            wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 22:13 last edited by
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            @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            He seemed very angry.

            https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/whats-the-best-way-to-manage-agitation-related-to-dementia-2020021418816

            Aggression and agitation in dementia

            Behavioral and psychological symptoms are very common in dementia, and affect up to 90% of people living with dementia. In addition to memory changes, people with dementia may experience agitation, psychosis, anxiety, depression, and apathy. These behavioral symptoms often lead to greater distress than memory changes.

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            • G George K
              18 Aug 2021, 22:10

              George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

              "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

              He seemed very angry.

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              George K
              wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 23:20 last edited by
              #141

              @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

              "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

              He seemed very angry.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Larry
                wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 23:43 last edited by
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                It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

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                • L Larry
                  18 Aug 2021, 23:43

                  It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

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                  George K
                  wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 23:46 last edited by George K
                  #143

                  @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                  It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

                  Well, that's the post of the day, LOL.

                  ETA, at least he's paying for the consequences.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 18 Aug 2021, 23:52 last edited by
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                    Wasn’t what he was saying last week.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • G George K
                      18 Aug 2021, 23:20

                      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                      George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                      "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                      He seemed very angry.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 03:42 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                      George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                      "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                      He seemed very angry.

                      He is so inept on this topic. Again, his July 8th comments were crystal clear and now clearly the complete opposite of what happened.

                      How else could this have been handled? Umm, waiting until you’ve evacuated all of our afghan partners (translators etc) and US assets before dismantling our military force over there?

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                        xenon
                        wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 07:01 last edited by
                        #146

                        That's a horrible look for him.

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                        • L Larry
                          18 Aug 2021, 23:43

                          It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

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                          Improviso
                          wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 10:31 last edited by
                          #147

                          @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                          It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

                          😂 😂 😂

                          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                          • X xenon
                            19 Aug 2021, 07:01

                            That's a horrible look for him.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 13:07 last edited by George K
                            #148

                            @xenon said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                            That's a horrible look for him.

                            Yes. And the RWEC is calling for the release of the full, unedited, video of the interview.

                            Stephanopoulos responds that they're releasing the full transcript.

                            Not good enough, says Hewitt. Release the Kraken full video.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • X xenon
                              19 Aug 2021, 07:01

                              That's a horrible look for him.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 15:17 last edited by
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                              @xenon said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                              That's a horrible look for him.

                              He's had work done, but it doesn't look terrible, all things considered. After all, he's like 100 years old.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                19 Aug 2021, 13:07

                                @xenon said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                That's a horrible look for him.

                                Yes. And the RWEC is calling for the release of the full, unedited, video of the interview.

                                Stephanopoulos responds that they're releasing the full transcript.

                                Not good enough, says Hewitt. Release the Kraken full video.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 19 Aug 2021, 15:20 last edited by
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                                @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                @xenon said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                That's a horrible look for him.

                                Yes. And the RWEC is calling for the release of the full, unedited, video of the interview.

                                Stephanopoulos responds that they're releasing the full transcript.

                                Not good enough, says Hewitt. Release the Kraken full video.

                                Here is the interview... it's pretty bad. He's going to have to pick which lie he's going to stick to. If he knows.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 23 Aug 2021, 12:18 last edited by
                                  #151

                                  Chris Wallace asks a question and doesn't get an answer:

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 23 Aug 2021, 15:48 last edited by
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                                    idiot

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                                    • M Mik
                                      13 Aug 2021, 14:18

                                      Looking more like the fall of Saigon than ever.

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 23 Aug 2021, 18:43 last edited by
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                                      @mik said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                      Looking more like the fall of Saigon than ever.

                                      Seems that Gwynne Dyer thought similarly back in mid March:

                                      https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/opinion/contributors/2021/03/16/us-abandoning-afghanistan-as-it-did-vietnam-50-years-ago.html

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        18 Aug 2021, 11:51

                                        @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

                                        The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

                                        As Quirt would undoubtedly say, if not spell, colour me skeptical.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 17:31 last edited by
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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

                                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

                                        The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

                                        As Quirt would undoubtedly say, if not spell, colour me skeptical.

                                        I doubt that story get past D.I. Chistopher Foyle without raising an eyebrow.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          24 Aug 2021, 17:31

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

                                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

                                          The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

                                          As Quirt would undoubtedly say, if not spell, colour me skeptical.

                                          I doubt that story get past D.I. Chistopher Foyle without raising an eyebrow.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 24 Aug 2021, 17:52 last edited by
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                                          @renauda said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          D.I. Chistopher Foyle

                                          I think it was DCS Foyle.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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