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    Loki
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    What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

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      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • L Loki

        What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

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        @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

        The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

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        • LarryL Larry

          @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

          What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

          The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

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          @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

          @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

          What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

          The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

          Very Interesting.

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          • LarryL Larry

            @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

            The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

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            @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            What does everyone think about the release of Mullah Baradar under Trump, co founder of the Taliban, and now apparently in charge?

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war

            The Trump administration had struck a deal with this guy where he agreed to make the Taliban more civil and less terroristic. In spite of the cluster fuck Biden has caused, this seems to be working, as the Taliban leadership held a press conference vowing to not seek retribution, to allow women more civil rights, including the right to attend school. In fact, if they follow through on all the things they said, Afghanistan could end up less like Iran and more like Saudi Arabia, relatively peaceful but a strict Islamic state.

            As Quirt would undoubtedly say, if not spell, colour me skeptical.

            I was only joking

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              George K
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              https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028564790/u-s-is-reviewing-the-deaths-of-people-who-may-have-fallen-from-a-plane-leaving-k

              The U.S. Air Force says its Office of Special Investigations is reviewing an incident at the Kabul airport Monday in which multiple people were killed when hundreds of Afghan civilians desperate to leave the country swarmed a C-17 cargo plane as it was attempting to take off.

              The Air Force did not say how many people died. It said human remains were found in the plane's wheel well after it landed at al-Udeid Air Base in the Gulf state of Qatar.

              Videos of the incident, including images of people falling from the aircraft as it took off, were widely viewed on social media. The images captured the initial chaos of a U.S.-directed evacuation that followed the Taliban's takeover of the country.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028564790/u-s-is-reviewing-the-deaths-of-people-who-may-have-fallen-from-a-plane-leaving-k

                The U.S. Air Force says its Office of Special Investigations is reviewing an incident at the Kabul airport Monday in which multiple people were killed when hundreds of Afghan civilians desperate to leave the country swarmed a C-17 cargo plane as it was attempting to take off.

                The Air Force did not say how many people died. It said human remains were found in the plane's wheel well after it landed at al-Udeid Air Base in the Gulf state of Qatar.

                Videos of the incident, including images of people falling from the aircraft as it took off, were widely viewed on social media. The images captured the initial chaos of a U.S.-directed evacuation that followed the Taliban's takeover of the country.

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                @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028564790/u-s-is-reviewing-the-deaths-of-people-who-may-have-fallen-from-a-plane-leaving-k

                The U.S. Air Force says its Office of Special Investigations is reviewing an incident at the Kabul airport Monday in which multiple people were killed when hundreds of Afghan civilians desperate to leave the country swarmed a C-17 cargo plane as it was attempting to take off.

                The Air Force did not say how many people died. It said human remains were found in the plane's wheel well after it landed at al-Udeid Air Base in the Gulf state of Qatar.

                Videos of the incident, including images of people falling from the aircraft as it took off, were widely viewed on social media. The images captured the initial chaos of a U.S.-directed evacuation that followed the Taliban's takeover of the country.

                I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

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                  @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                  https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028564790/u-s-is-reviewing-the-deaths-of-people-who-may-have-fallen-from-a-plane-leaving-k

                  The U.S. Air Force says its Office of Special Investigations is reviewing an incident at the Kabul airport Monday in which multiple people were killed when hundreds of Afghan civilians desperate to leave the country swarmed a C-17 cargo plane as it was attempting to take off.

                  The Air Force did not say how many people died. It said human remains were found in the plane's wheel well after it landed at al-Udeid Air Base in the Gulf state of Qatar.

                  Videos of the incident, including images of people falling from the aircraft as it took off, were widely viewed on social media. The images captured the initial chaos of a U.S.-directed evacuation that followed the Taliban's takeover of the country.

                  I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

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                  @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                  I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

                  It's freaking Congress!

                  That's what they do.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                    I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

                    It's freaking Congress!

                    That's what they do.

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                    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                    @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                    I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

                    It's freaking Congress!

                    That's what they do.

                    I never really appreciated how much of the job investigating has become. I have to believe it’s been written about it and it must have to do with the 2 year election cycle.

                    I think the House in particular is just a running for election treadmill. It’s aligned nicely with social media, always producing drama, click bait and alleged cliffhangers.

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                      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                      @89th said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                      I'm sorry, what's to investigate? Seems pretty clear what happened.

                      It's freaking Congress!

                      That's what they do.

                      I never really appreciated how much of the job investigating has become. I have to believe it’s been written about it and it must have to do with the 2 year election cycle.

                      I think the House in particular is just a running for election treadmill. It’s aligned nicely with social media, always producing drama, click bait and alleged cliffhangers.

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                      @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                      I think the House in particular is just a running for election treadmill. It’s aligned nicely with social media, always producing drama, click bait and alleged cliffhangers.

                      Plus you got to remember what 'doing an investigation' could mean. It probably means the Speaker and/or the Majority Leader appoints a committee . . . which meets once, maybe twice if one of the meetings is during lunch and includes Scotch . . . then the committee members are, I dunno, too busy or something . . . then six months go by and people stop asking about it . . . and the public's attention span being what it is, the
                      investigation fades into nothing, though it is forcefully claimed to be still ongoing.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                        "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                        He seemed very angry.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                          "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                          He seemed very angry.

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                          @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                          He seemed very angry.

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                            George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                            "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                            He seemed very angry.

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                            George K
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                            @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                            George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                            "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                            He seemed very angry.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Larry
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                              It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

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                                @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

                                Well, that's the post of the day, LOL.

                                ETA, at least he's paying for the consequences.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Wasn’t what he was saying last week.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                    George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                                    "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                                    He seemed very angry.

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                                    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                    George Stephanopolis interviewed Biden.

                                    "There's no way we could have gotten out without chaos," said POTUS.

                                    He seemed very angry.

                                    He is so inept on this topic. Again, his July 8th comments were crystal clear and now clearly the complete opposite of what happened.

                                    How else could this have been handled? Umm, waiting until you’ve evacuated all of our afghan partners (translators etc) and US assets before dismantling our military force over there?

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                                      That's a horrible look for him.

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                                      • LarryL Larry

                                        It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

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                                        @larry said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        It was the most botched pullout since Hunter knocked up that stripper....

                                        😂 😂 😂

                                        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                                        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                                          That's a horrible look for him.

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                                          @xenon said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          That's a horrible look for him.

                                          Yes. And the RWEC is calling for the release of the full, unedited, video of the interview.

                                          Stephanopoulos responds that they're releasing the full transcript.

                                          Not good enough, says Hewitt. Release the Kraken full video.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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