Vaccine Rollout
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@jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:
Nope, not gonna happen.
Besides, the vaccine does not give you immunity. You can - and many will - catch COVID after being vaccinated.
And THAT is where your vaccine-resistant strain will come from.
The antibiotic-resistant bacteria didn't develop from people not taking antibiotics...
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And this tendency to refer to people as Anti-Vax is inaccurate and hurting your cause. Most people I know aren't 100% either way. Most that are waiting are simply waiting. They want to see how it goes. I know of more than one person planning on going in July, they just wanted to give it 6 months to see if there were any obvious health risks that appeared.
By the way, regarding the switch to PCP's and regular healthcare providers for the vaccine? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2106137
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@lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:
And this tendency to refer to people as Anti-Vax is inaccurate and hurting your cause. Most people I know aren't 100% either way. Most that are waiting are simply waiting. They want to see how it goes. I know of more than one person planning on going in July, they just wanted to give it 6 months to see if there were any obvious health risks that appeared.
There are only a couple of groups who won’t take the vaccine so I am not buying the watch and wait. It’s mostly political, sorry , but the data shows it.
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And data is never wrong.
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Told this before...One of the better infernal med docs I knew, bemoaned the fact that residents no longer made housecalls. His assertion was that he learned an awful lot about how to treat patients, just by entering their homes and seeing how they lived.
Doesn't matter if the patient says they don't smoke, when the living room smells like the Marlboro factory...
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US counties with the lowest vaccination rates have one curious thing in common (take a guess):
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html
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This is because Joe Biden and his criminal friends have denied the vaccine to Trump voters.
The vaccine delivery routes have been gerrymandered to exclude republicans and people who love the United States.
The joke is on the democrats, the vaccine will soon begin to turn them all into Chinese communists. In fact this has already begun.
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@loki said in Vaccine Rollout:
US counties with the lowest vaccination rates have one curious thing in common (take a guess):
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html
- Not surprised in the slightest.
- I don't much care about the political affiliation of dumbshits. If they were Biden supporters they'r still be just as much a problem.
- Population size and density also tracks with this chart. My hometown was very much averse to vaccinations because like many small towns, they followed the unbelievably stupid notion that they were special and somehow isolated from the pandemic. "We thought it was a problem for city people." Seemed true for awhile, too: it took a long time for cases to blow up there.
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“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@mik said in Vaccine Rollout:
To try to Tag trump with this is ridiculous. he moved mountains so the vaccines could be developed and manufactured.
Plus he has come out and encouraged people to get vaccine both in office and out.
As @Aqua-Letifer noted, those states and counties are far more rural with far lower access as well.
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I think it is very very obvious that the higher % of people vaccinated, the lower the chance of getting the virus. And, the lower the chance of having a large outbreak.
To think the other way is very very goofy. Sorry.
I think our statistics people here could very quickly explain that if you have a vaccine that is 90% effective and you have a room of 100 vaccinated people, the odds of getting the virus are quite small.
If you have that same room of 100 people and only one person has the vaccine, then the odds of a person getting the virus are much much higher.
I am really really curious as to why people do not want to get the vaccine?
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This pandemic has taught me that there are a lot more bloody stupid people than I previously believed.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525.
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@doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:
This pandemic has taught me that there are a lot more bloody stupid people than I previously believed.
Same. It's amazing to me just how much nonsense people are willing to believe in order to not have to grow.
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@lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:
@mik said in Vaccine Rollout:
To try to Tag trump with this is ridiculous. he moved mountains so the vaccines could be developed and manufactured.
Plus he has come out and encouraged people to get vaccine both in office and out.
Put that in the "too little, too late" category. Trump spent many news cycles making light of the danger and severity of COVID-19 and sewed distrust against institutions. The impact of his rhetorics add up and have long term effects among his followers.
Dig around if you want, maybe you'd find one tweet from mid-December 2020 (that bragged about stock market performance) and one FoxNews interview from min-March 2021 where Trump told people to get vaccinated. But compare to Trump's voluminous public communications, those two instances are insignificant. You don't see Trump do a public service announcement or a standalone statement urging people to get vaccinated -- and this from one who issued a public statement to comment on the last OSCARS' TV ratings.
As deadly and as widespread as COVID-19 is, you should expect a national leader to be a lot more vocal and a lot more disciplined with his/her public communications. The very low bar you set to let Trump squeak through does no one any good.
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You know, I'd say you're as dumb as a bag of hammers, but it would be an insult to a bag of hammers.
At this point, what Trump said a year ago - and note, Trump has always touted a vaccine - doesn't have a lot of effect on people's decision to vaccinate or not.
Let me point out that a lot of rural America, for very good reason, does not trust the national media at all. They look at the VAERS numbers, they know people their age who have had COVID or they live in areas that are rural enough that COVID is pretty scarce.
So, this thirty-something oil field hand or construction worker is weighing his chances...If I get COVID, what are my chances of recovery? What are the ill effects of the shot? What is this I'm hearing about catching COVID after the shot? Did y'all hear we have to have a booster every year with this shot?
So, your Madison Avenue ad campaign ain't gonna do buttkiss at this point. LuFin's Dad is absolutely correct...You want to vaccinate people in the hinterlands? You put that vaccine in local clinics and doctor's offices. Let people they trust talk to them about vaccination. You just might get more of them to get the shot.
But one thing I do know...If you want to beat them over the head with how ignorant they are and how you are going to make them get vaccinated...Well, as Scooby would say, "Rotsa ruck!".
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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Various states and counties are reporting that among new cases of COVID-19, over 97% are from the unvaccinated.
“[Washington state] reported this past week that unvaccinated people between ages 45 and 64 are now being hospitalized for COVID at rates 21 times higher than the vaccinated.”
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Vaccination rates by congressional districts:
