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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

    We have an extended family member who wouldn’t get vaccinated, think young. We all told that person, that’s fine but don’t come around. That fixed it.

    Wouldn't it just be easier to chase them down on the street and shoot them?

    It's a two-fer. You put everybody out of their misery at once.

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    Renauda
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    #103

    @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

    @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

    We have an extended family member who wouldn’t get vaccinated, think young. We all told that person, that’s fine but don’t come around. That fixed it.

    Wouldn't it just be easier to chase them down on the street and shoot them?

    It's a two-fer. You put everybody out of their misery at once.

    Just an old fashioned shunning would suffice.

    Elbows up!

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      Jolly
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      #104

      I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

      Maybe we could make them wear a Scarlet "V" or maybe a yellow armband of some kind.

      Visuals are cool...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

        Maybe we could make them wear a Scarlet "V" or maybe a yellow armband of some kind.

        Visuals are cool...

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #105

        @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

        I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

        Maybe we could make them wear a Scarlet "V" or maybe a yellow armband of some kind.

        Visuals are cool...

        Anti-vaxxers in London have been wearing the Star of David, so they're way ahead of you in claiming victim status. Assholes.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

          I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

          Maybe we could make them wear a Scarlet "V" or maybe a yellow armband of some kind.

          Visuals are cool...

          Anti-vaxxers in London have been wearing the Star of David, so they're way ahead of you in claiming victim status. Assholes.

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          Horace
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          #106

          @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:

          @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

          I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

          Maybe we could make them wear a Scarlet "V" or maybe a yellow armband of some kind.

          Visuals are cool...

          Anti-vaxxers in London have been wearing the Star of David, so they're way ahead of you in claiming victim status. Assholes.

          Developing countries will often have primitive belief systems. Once western education and cultural norms are in place, you'll see that those cultures will slowly begin to resemble first world cultures. But for the purposes of this discussion, I think we should be focusing on current first world cultures.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            I’d be bitter if I lived in California, too

            I was only joking

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              Jolly
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              #108

              Geez, you live in New England. How much more bitter can one man be?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

                Maybe we could make them wear a Scarlet "V" or maybe a yellow armband of some kind.

                Visuals are cool...

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                Renauda
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                #109

                @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                I'm not going to shun them. Most people won't. Besides, who do you know who to shun?

                Well then you go right ahead and chase them down the street and shoot them. I don't think it is necessary and you'll get yourself into a heap of trouble.

                I would just give family members, friends, acquaintances and strangers who come out as anti-vax or Covid conspiracy subscribers the cold shoulder. It suffices, they get the message and stay away.

                Elbows up!

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                  Jolly
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                  #110

                  First rule of medicine...Patients lie.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    taiwan_girl
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                    #111

                    If you are okay in the future with periodic lockdowns, temporary closing of businesses, less than full capacity at those businesses which are open, remote schooling for the kids, travel restrictions, etc. dont get vaccinated.

                    If the above bothers you, please get vaccinated.

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                      Jolly
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                      #112

                      Nope, not gonna happen.

                      Economies simply can't take many more protracted lockdowns, so you're going to have to deal with the virus. Besides, the vaccine does not give you immunity. You can - and many will - catch COVID after being vaccinated.

                      Remote schooling has been a disaster and kids don't carry the virus that well, anyway.

                      Would you shut the world's economy down for the common cold virus? The two viruses are related, you know.

                      I think with vaccination...BTW, if you really want to have some fun, herd Americans up and mandate vaccinations at the end of a bayonet, which is what it would take in the short term...Anyway, with vaccination, I think you can keep the virus down to a manageable level. Unless something radically changes, I don't think we will eradicate it.

                      For that, we can thank all of our Chinese friends down at the lab who weaponized this and then let it out the door...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        If you are okay in the future with periodic lockdowns, temporary closing of businesses, less than full capacity at those businesses which are open, remote schooling for the kids, travel restrictions, etc. dont get vaccinated.

                        If the above bothers you, please get vaccinated.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Vaccine Rollout:

                        If you are okay in the future with periodic lockdowns, temporary closing of businesses, less than full capacity at those businesses which are open, remote schooling for the kids, travel restrictions, etc. dont get vaccinated.

                        If the above bothers you, please get vaccinated.

                        Oh, that's coming no matter what. SARS 2002, H5N1 (Bird Flu) 2005, H1N1 2009, MERS 2012, 2014-2016 Ebola... Every couple of years a bug breaks through and causes a major scare. The next time a new virus breaks out (and it will, a virus has to virus, it's what they do), expect to see shutdowns and all the rest... Your COVID Vax is not going to stop that from happening. In November of 2022 somebody will sneeze and have a fever in Estonia, the doctors won't be able to nail down the virus, and off we go...

                        The Brad

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Nope, not gonna happen.

                          Economies simply can't take many more protracted lockdowns, so you're going to have to deal with the virus. Besides, the vaccine does not give you immunity. You can - and many will - catch COVID after being vaccinated.

                          Remote schooling has been a disaster and kids don't carry the virus that well, anyway.

                          Would you shut the world's economy down for the common cold virus? The two viruses are related, you know.

                          I think with vaccination...BTW, if you really want to have some fun, herd Americans up and mandate vaccinations at the end of a bayonet, which is what it would take in the short term...Anyway, with vaccination, I think you can keep the virus down to a manageable level. Unless something radically changes, I don't think we will eradicate it.

                          For that, we can thank all of our Chinese friends down at the lab who weaponized this and then let it out the door...

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #114

                          @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                          Nope, not gonna happen.

                          Besides, the vaccine does not give you immunity. You can - and many will - catch COVID after being vaccinated.

                          And THAT is where your vaccine-resistant strain will come from.

                          The antibiotic-resistant bacteria didn't develop from people not taking antibiotics...

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            And this tendency to refer to people as Anti-Vax is inaccurate and hurting your cause. Most people I know aren't 100% either way. Most that are waiting are simply waiting. They want to see how it goes. I know of more than one person planning on going in July, they just wanted to give it 6 months to see if there were any obvious health risks that appeared.

                            By the way, regarding the switch to PCP's and regular healthcare providers for the vaccine? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2106137

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              And this tendency to refer to people as Anti-Vax is inaccurate and hurting your cause. Most people I know aren't 100% either way. Most that are waiting are simply waiting. They want to see how it goes. I know of more than one person planning on going in July, they just wanted to give it 6 months to see if there were any obvious health risks that appeared.

                              By the way, regarding the switch to PCP's and regular healthcare providers for the vaccine? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2106137

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                              Loki
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                              @lufins-dad said in Vaccine Rollout:

                              And this tendency to refer to people as Anti-Vax is inaccurate and hurting your cause. Most people I know aren't 100% either way. Most that are waiting are simply waiting. They want to see how it goes. I know of more than one person planning on going in July, they just wanted to give it 6 months to see if there were any obvious health risks that appeared.

                              There are only a couple of groups who won’t take the vaccine so I am not buying the watch and wait. It’s mostly political, sorry , but the data shows it.

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                                Jolly
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                                And data is never wrong.😉

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  First rule of medicine...Patients lie.

                                  MikM Away
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                                  Mik
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                                  #118

                                  @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                  First rule of medicine...Patients lie.

                                  Like rugs.

                                  Never understood that. How can you get a good diagnosis from bad information? Counterproductive.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Jolly
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                                    #119

                                    Told this before...One of the better infernal med docs I knew, bemoaned the fact that residents no longer made housecalls. His assertion was that he learned an awful lot about how to treat patients, just by entering their homes and seeing how they lived.

                                    Doesn't matter if the patient says they don't smoke, when the living room smells like the Marlboro factory...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Loki
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                                      #120

                                      US counties with the lowest vaccination rates have one curious thing in common (take a guess):

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html

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                                        Copper
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                                        This is because Joe Biden and his criminal friends have denied the vaccine to Trump voters.

                                        The vaccine delivery routes have been gerrymandered to exclude republicans and people who love the United States.

                                        The joke is on the democrats, the vaccine will soon begin to turn them all into Chinese communists. In fact this has already begun.

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                                          US counties with the lowest vaccination rates have one curious thing in common (take a guess):

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #122

                                          @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                          US counties with the lowest vaccination rates have one curious thing in common (take a guess):

                                          https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/us/vaccine-hesitancy-politics.html

                                          1. Not surprised in the slightest.
                                          2. I don't much care about the political affiliation of dumbshits. If they were Biden supporters they'r still be just as much a problem.
                                          3. Population size and density also tracks with this chart. My hometown was very much averse to vaccinations because like many small towns, they followed the unbelievably stupid notion that they were special and somehow isolated from the pandemic. "We thought it was a problem for city people." Seemed true for awhile, too: it took a long time for cases to blow up there.

                                          Please love yourself.

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