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    89th
    wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:14 last edited by
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    93% of the time it works...every time.

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      18 Feb 2021, 14:14

      93% of the time it works...every time.

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      George K
      wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:21 last edited by
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      @89th said in Vaccine news:

      93% of the time it works...every time.

      Too lazy to look it up. What's the effectiveness after the 2nd dose?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:22 last edited by
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        I thought it was 95%.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Loki
          wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:25 last edited by Loki
          #6

          Master of the obvious here pointing out the big story is one dose ergo doubling the vaccination rate until we have excess inventory.

          Also what is herd immunity requirement now that people are immune in 2 weeks?

          Finally more clues as to big drop in active cases.

          This is all potentially blockbuster news.

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            89th
            wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:26 last edited by
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            Basically:

            1st shot + 7 days: 69%
            1st shot + 14 days: 93%
            2nd shot + 7 days: 95%

            Aka...you don't need a 2nd shot from Pfizer, if the data holds.

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            • G George K
              18 Feb 2021, 14:21

              @89th said in Vaccine news:

              93% of the time it works...every time.

              Too lazy to look it up. What's the effectiveness after the 2nd dose?

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              mark
              wrote on 18 Feb 2021, 14:26 last edited by
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              @george-k I read a study in the UK that stated the 2nd dose of both vaccines should be delayed for up to 90 days after the first dose. When administered on the current schedule, the effective rate actually drops into the High 70s, low 80s. If they delay the 2nd dose, the effective rate climbs to 97+

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 15:19 last edited by
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                https://www.npr.org/2021/04/23/989954894/biden-administration-looks-for-help-with-next-phase-of-pitching-covid-vaccines

                “The Biden administration is moving into a new phase of its campaign to vaccinate as many Americans as possible for the coronavirus, one where the government may not always be the best messenger to persuade people to get their shot.

                So it's working to bring together hundreds of local and national groups into something it calls the COVID-19 Community Corps, enlisting people to help their friends, family and neighbors make appointments and get access to vaccines.
                ...
                The country is nearing the point where vaccine supply will outstrip demand. ...
                “

                Sounds reasonable enough. I imagine there are many NGOs that are already involved with promoting and helping people get vaccinated anyway. Hopefully this is engage more NGOs and help those already engaged to become more effective.

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 01:32 last edited by Axtremus
                  #10

                  US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
                  https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

                  “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

                  Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

                  And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

                  “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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                    US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
                    https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

                    “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

                    Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

                    And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

                    “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 01:41 last edited by
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                    @axtremus said in Vaccine news:

                    “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

                    Was this research peer reviewed?

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                      24 Apr 2021, 01:41

                      @axtremus said in Vaccine news:

                      “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

                      Was this research peer reviewed?

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 14:00 last edited by
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                      @copper

                      No, but it was undoubtedly pew reviewed.

                      Elbows up!

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                        24 Apr 2021, 01:32

                        US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
                        https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

                        “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

                        Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

                        And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

                        “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 22:05 last edited by
                        #13

                        And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

                        “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

                        I don’t mind if an individual believes if they catch Covid it was God’s plan, it’s just that they can cause others to die that doesn’t seem like a good interpretation of God’s plan.

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                          24 Apr 2021, 01:32

                          US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
                          https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

                          “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

                          Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

                          And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

                          “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 24 Apr 2021, 22:31 last edited by
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                          @axtremus said in Vaccine news:

                          US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
                          https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

                          “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

                          Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

                          And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

                          “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

                          Not to mention that many of these are rural areas with pretty low infection rates...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 27 Apr 2021, 01:25 last edited by
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                            US to share up to 60m vaccine doses amid pressure to lead global virus fight
                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/us-vaccine-doses-60m-coronavirus-astrazeneca-india

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 2 May 2021, 12:34 last edited by
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                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/02/us-covid-vaccinations-clinics-outreach-campaigns-vaccine-hesitancy

                              Decline in US Covid vaccinations presents new problem: how to shrink operations
                              With less than one-third of Americans fully vaccinated, health authorities switch from mass vaccination clinics to outreach campaigns

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 2 May 2021, 14:58 last edited by
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                                Get the vaccines to the family doctors. Have them start addressing it in one on one conversations with their patients during their physicals.

                                The Brad

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 6 May 2021, 03:56 last edited by
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                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/us/politics/biden-covid-vaccine-patents.html

                                  Taking ‘Extraordinary Measures,’ Biden Backs Suspending Patents on Vaccines
                                  The Biden administration, siding with some world leaders over the U.S. pharmaceutical industry, came out in favor of waiving intellectual property protections for coronavirus vaccines.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 6 May 2021, 11:40 last edited by Mik 5 Jun 2021, 11:42
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                                    This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      6 May 2021, 11:40

                                      This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 6 May 2021, 12:02 last edited by
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                                      @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                      This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                      I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                        6 May 2021, 12:02

                                        @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                        This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                        I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 6 May 2021, 12:25 last edited by
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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine news:

                                        @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                        This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                        I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                                        Lol. Probably right. Everyone in a twitter though and Biden scored a few globalist points.

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                                          6 May 2021, 12:02

                                          @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                          This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                          I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

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                                          wrote on 6 May 2021, 12:27 last edited by
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                                          @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine news:

                                          @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                          This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                          I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                                          Don't think the Chinese can't produce it?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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