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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #9

    https://www.npr.org/2021/04/23/989954894/biden-administration-looks-for-help-with-next-phase-of-pitching-covid-vaccines

    “The Biden administration is moving into a new phase of its campaign to vaccinate as many Americans as possible for the coronavirus, one where the government may not always be the best messenger to persuade people to get their shot.

    So it's working to bring together hundreds of local and national groups into something it calls the COVID-19 Community Corps, enlisting people to help their friends, family and neighbors make appointments and get access to vaccines.
    ...
    The country is nearing the point where vaccine supply will outstrip demand. ...
    “

    Sounds reasonable enough. I imagine there are many NGOs that are already involved with promoting and helping people get vaccinated anyway. Hopefully this is engage more NGOs and help those already engaged to become more effective.

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    • AxtremusA Away
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      Axtremus
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      #10

      US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
      https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

      “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

      Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

      And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

      “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
        https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

        “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

        Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

        And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

        “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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        Copper
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        #11

        @axtremus said in Vaccine news:

        “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

        Was this research peer reviewed?

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        • CopperC Copper

          @axtremus said in Vaccine news:

          “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

          Was this research peer reviewed?

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          Renauda
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          @copper

          No, but it was undoubtedly pew reviewed.

          Elbows up!

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
            https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

            “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

            Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

            And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

            “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

            “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

            I don’t mind if an individual believes if they catch Covid it was God’s plan, it’s just that they can cause others to die that doesn’t seem like a good interpretation of God’s plan.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
              https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

              “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

              Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

              And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

              “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @axtremus said in Vaccine news:

              US drop in vaccine demand has some places turning down doses
              https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-health-coronavirus-government-and-politics-108f1fd0813f0d2ecec1589fd137625d

              “... Across the country, pharmacists and public health officials are seeing the demand wane and supplies build up. About half of Iowa’s counties have stopped asking for new doses from the state, and Louisiana didn’t seek shipment of some vaccine doses over the past week.

              Some are urging federal officials to send more vaccine to places where there’s demand — rather than allocate them based on population — including Massachusetts Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, who said on Thursday they could administer two to three times more doses per day if they had more supply.”

              And then there is the insight from an interview with a mother who homeschools her two children, talking about her home schooling community:

              “The stronger someone’s trust is in the Lord, the least likely they are to want the vaccine or feel that it’s necessary.”

              Not to mention that many of these are rural areas with pretty low infection rates...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Away
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                Axtremus
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                #15

                US to share up to 60m vaccine doses amid pressure to lead global virus fight
                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/us-vaccine-doses-60m-coronavirus-astrazeneca-india

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                • AxtremusA Away
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                  Axtremus
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                  #16

                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/02/us-covid-vaccinations-clinics-outreach-campaigns-vaccine-hesitancy

                  Decline in US Covid vaccinations presents new problem: how to shrink operations
                  With less than one-third of Americans fully vaccinated, health authorities switch from mass vaccination clinics to outreach campaigns

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #17

                    Get the vaccines to the family doctors. Have them start addressing it in one on one conversations with their patients during their physicals.

                    The Brad

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      Axtremus
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                      #18

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/05/us/politics/biden-covid-vaccine-patents.html

                      Taking ‘Extraordinary Measures,’ Biden Backs Suspending Patents on Vaccines
                      The Biden administration, siding with some world leaders over the U.S. pharmaceutical industry, came out in favor of waiving intellectual property protections for coronavirus vaccines.

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                        Mik
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                        #19

                        This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @mik said in Vaccine news:

                          This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                          I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @mik said in Vaccine news:

                            This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                            I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

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                            Loki
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                            @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine news:

                            @mik said in Vaccine news:

                            This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                            I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                            Lol. Probably right. Everyone in a twitter though and Biden scored a few globalist points.

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @mik said in Vaccine news:

                              This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                              I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

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                              Jolly
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                              #22

                              @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine news:

                              @mik said in Vaccine news:

                              This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                              I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                              Don't think the Chinese can't produce it?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                #23

                                The actual result is pretty much irrelevant compared to the big middle digit it sends the pharma companies. They can take huge risks then have their legal protections stripped on a whim? I'm not even sure he can actually do this, but if he can he shouldn't.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  The actual result is pretty much irrelevant compared to the big middle digit it sends the pharma companies. They can take huge risks then have their legal protections stripped on a whim? I'm not even sure he can actually do this, but if he can he shouldn't.

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                                  Loki
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                                  @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                  The actual result is pretty much irrelevant compared to the big middle digit it sends the pharma companies. They can take huge risks then have their legal protections stripped on a whim? I'm not even sure he can actually do this, but if he can he shouldn't.

                                  This is part of this we are back at the globalist table campaign. Cozying up with WHO in this case and feel good domestically. It would never pass in current form but all sorts of different gives will be put forth by big Pharma. Interestingly it is quite possible another country like Germany will release a refrigerator ready RNA based vaccine soon which will render Moderna and Pfizer useless for the rest of the world.

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                                    Isn't helping Americans' portfolio value.

                                    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pharma-shares-reel-after-biden-backs-covid-19-vaccine-ip-waiver-2021-05-06/

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine news:

                                      @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                      This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                      I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                                      Don't think the Chinese can't produce it?

                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      #26

                                      @jolly said in Vaccine news:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine news:

                                      @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                      This is a huge mistake. Pharma companies all took potentially catastrophic financial risks to come up with the vaccines. To take away from them the ability to recoup and perhaps make a profit on them pretty much guarantees they will not answer the phone next crisis.

                                      I heard a lawyer interviewed this morning say that this is pretty much a symbolic step. You can't produce vaccines from a patent, and without the co-operation of the Pharm companies it really isn't possible to reproduce the product.

                                      Don't think the Chinese can't produce it?

                                      I have no idea. The lawyer didn't seem to think so. I've seen the Chinese counterfeit quite a bit of stuff we get involved with, and make a right old mess of it. I'd have thought the stakes were higher with medicine than electronics.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        The actual result is pretty much irrelevant compared to the big middle digit it sends the pharma companies. They can take huge risks then have their legal protections stripped on a whim? I'm not even sure he can actually do this, but if he can he shouldn't.

                                        AxtremusA Away
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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #27

                                        @mik said in Vaccine news:

                                        The actual result is pretty much irrelevant compared to the big middle digit it sends the pharma companies. They can take huge risks then have their legal protections stripped on a whim? I'm not even sure he can actually do this, but if he can he shouldn't.

                                        You don‘t want to credit Operation Warp Speed anymore? The other way you could have come at this is to say, hey, Operation Warp Speed helped derisk your ventures at making the COVID-19 vaccines, so it’s only fair that you leave some of the supposed profit on the table to help with the public good.

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                                          You have no idea what you are talking about. I do.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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