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How about that Amanda Gorman?

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    xenon
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    It was very nice. One of my team members was super pumped about this - they went to school together.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #4

      The message was wonderful, appropriate, and a joy to listen to.

      As for the poetry as poetry itself:

      172796CE-8487-4851-8C85-58287AA2712F.jpeg

      1. Of all the rhetorical, literary, linguistic, and phonetic tools at her disposal, she chooses only a small handful and tries to prop up the vacancy with the importance of the message. (Warning: this is quite obviously a deliberate trap I've tried to spring on you.)
      2. Pro tip: being performative while reciting poetry is like hiring loose women to run your merch booth after the concert. You wouldn't have to do it if the product actually had any music to it.

      This isn't intended to detract from her excellent performance and no I'm not a racist.

      Please love yourself.

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        I agree with @Aqua-Letifer.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #6

          Ah, white American men have never known in their lives what it is to climb any hills. I guess the other people need to be taught, by others, what it is to climb hills.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Horace
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            #7

            I guess we all know how stupid it is to declare "white men" the captains of the universe. I mean we're just who we know, and we compete with who we know.

            Personally, of course I'm special, having grown up among Vietnam's people.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #8

              Well, shit. Now I know I must be wrong. 😄

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                The message was wonderful, appropriate, and a joy to listen to.

                As for the poetry as poetry itself:

                172796CE-8487-4851-8C85-58287AA2712F.jpeg

                1. Of all the rhetorical, literary, linguistic, and phonetic tools at her disposal, she chooses only a small handful and tries to prop up the vacancy with the importance of the message. (Warning: this is quite obviously a deliberate trap I've tried to spring on you.)
                2. Pro tip: being performative while reciting poetry is like hiring loose women to run your merch booth after the concert. You wouldn't have to do it if the product actually had any music to it.

                This isn't intended to detract from her excellent performance and no I'm not a racist.

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                Copper
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                @aqua-letifer said in How about that Amanda Gorman?:

                The message was wonderful, appropriate, and a joy to listen to.

                As for the poetry as poetry itself:

                1. Of all the rhetorical, literary, linguistic, and phonetic tools at her disposal, she chooses only a small handful and tries to prop up the vacancy with the importance of the message. (Warning: this is quite obviously a deliberate trap I've tried to spring on you.)
                2. Pro tip: being performative while reciting poetry is like hiring loose women to run your merch booth after the concert. You wouldn't have to do it if the product actually had any music to it.

                This isn't intended to detract from her excellent performance and no I'm not a racist.

                Some poets have trouble with the venue

                Link to video

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                  When I'm elected President, or Pope, or whatever it is, the poems read out are going to be really dirty limericks.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    When I'm elected President, or Pope, or whatever it is, the poems read out are going to be really dirty limericks.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in How about that Amanda Gorman?:

                    When I'm elected President, or Pope, or whatever it is, the poems read out are going to be really dirty limericks.

                    I’ll just lead all the attendees through a round of The Scotsman.

                    The Brad

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                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/11/amanda-gorman-white-translator-spain/

                      Translator Victor Obiols told AFP on Wednesday that Univers had commissioned him last month to translate Gorman’s work into Catalan, a language spoken in Spain and Andorra. After he completed the job, the publishing house informed him he “was not the right person,” he said.

                      .
                      “They told me that I am not suitable to translate it,” Obiols told AFP. “They did not question my abilities, but they were looking for a different profile, which had to be a woman, young, activist and preferably Black.”
                      ...
                      Earlier this month, an author quit a job translating Gorman’s poem into Dutch following objections to their appointment by Dutch publisher Meulenhoff because they were not Black.
                      ...

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        This sounds like some condition the owner(s) of the poem might have put on it. If your writing is clear enough to be understood it should be able to be translated by any competent translator. You shouldn't have to speak 'hood to do it.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          White people are bad

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