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“There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated."

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  • George KG George K

    The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

    So, what's the point?

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    @george-k said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

    The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

    So, what's the point?

    If there really is fraud, it should still be investigated and the perpetrator brought to justice. People need to know that they cannot get away with election fraud. For that, I support investigating claims of fraud.

    At the same time, I want people who make such claim to be responsible. Make the claim because you have done your homework and honestly believe your claim to be true, not just throwing every conspiracy theories on the wall just to see what sticks. When you claim fraud, don't tell the public one thing but then tell the courts something else (or as with many of Trump's cases, tell the courts nothing at all). Knowingly making false claims with regards to election fraud is itself a disservice to democracy.

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      @axtremus said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

      @larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

      So you think we should ignore the poll workers who testified just the opposite under oath, along with the physical evidence they gave to support their testimony, ...

      Trump's legal team has so far been too chicken to present any of these to a court of law. Maybe you should tell the Trump team to the these individuals with their testimonies and evidence more seriously, like presenting them to the courts of law.

      Maybe you should start paying attention. This was already addressed, and I'm tired of having to repeat things to brain dead democrats.

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      • George KG George K

        The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

        So, what's the point?

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        @george-k said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

        The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

        So, what's the point?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          It would be a real shame if he ran again in 2024. So many people would be so psychologically ruined. It would totally not be predictable about how some robots function.

          Education is extremely important.

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            #56

            Might be fun.

            As I said, if the country has gone to economic hell and the SJW folks overplay their hand...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              I think a lot of us on the sidelines are not too happy to see those we deem virtual friends hit at each other, sometimes below the belt.

              Of course Trump is the greatest president in the history of history. Right? RIGHT!!??

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              • LarryL Larry

                @axtremus said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                Georgia Voting System Implementation Manager debunks claims of voter fraud made by the Trump

                So you think we should ignore the poll workers who testified just the opposite under oath, along with the physical evidence they gave to support their testimony, and instead take the word of some guy who worked with the voting machines that have been proven to not work.....

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                @larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                @axtremus said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                Georgia Voting System Implementation Manager debunks claims of voter fraud made by the Trump

                So you think we should ignore the poll workers who testified just the opposite under oath, along with the physical evidence they gave to support their testimony, and instead take the word of some guy who worked with the voting machines that have been proven to not work.....

                Mind linking some of this testimony, since you’ve already seen it?

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                  “Trump tried to reach Raffensperger 18 times before Saturday’s call, but the calls were patched to interns in the press office who thought it was a prank & didn’t realize it was actually the president on the line.”

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Might be fun.

                    As I said, if the country has gone to economic hell and the SJW folks overplay their hand...

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    @jolly said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                    Might be fun.

                    As I said, if the country has gone to economic hell and the SJW folks overplay their hand...

                    Yes, it will be awesome if the country's gone down the toilet in 4 years. Hopefully we'll all lose our pensions, too. It would certainly be worth the sacrifice to bring back Donald Trump as the saviour of working people everywhere!

                    I was only joking

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Georgia Voting System Implementation Manager debunks claims of voter fraud made by the Trump team:

                      Link to video

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                      @axtremus said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                      Georgia Voting System Implementation Manager debunks claims of voter fraud made by the Trump team:

                      Guy who will never work in this town again if Trump is right, says Trump is wrong.

                      Oh well

                      I guess that is enough

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        @axtremus said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                        Georgia Voting System Implementation Manager debunks claims of voter fraud made by the Trump team:

                        Guy who will never work in this town again if Trump is right, says Trump is wrong.

                        Oh well

                        I guess that is enough

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                        @copper

                        President who loses his job if dozens of courts and elected officials of both parties are right, says dozens of courts and elected officials of both parties are wrong.

                        Oh well.

                        I guess that is enough.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • George KG George K

                          The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

                          So, what's the point?

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                          @george-k said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                          The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

                          So, what's the point?

                          I had the same thought during the call. I was half expecting Brad to say "Mr. President, even if that were true, you still lost in a landslide according to your own standards"

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                            @89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                            @george-k said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                            The big picture: Even if President Trump's assertions that there is widespread fraud, enough to change the results of the election in Georgia, it's not enough to change the Electoral College tally, right?

                            So, what's the point?

                            I had the same thought during the call. I was half expecting Brad to say "Mr. President, even if that were true, you still lost in a landslide according to your own standards"

                            You keep repeating that bit of nonsense like you believe if you say it enough times it will become true.

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                              He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

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                                Larry
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                                @jon-nyc said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                                Not really, since that is a lie as well.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                  He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                                  LOL exactly.

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                                  • LarryL Larry

                                    @jon-nyc said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                    He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                                    Not really, since that is a lie as well.

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                                    @larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                    @jon-nyc said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                    He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                                    Not really, since that is a lie as well.

                                    Ok, so let's go step by step. Are you saying Trump didn't say he won in a landslide in 2016 after citing his electoral vote count?

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                      @jon-nyc said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                      He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                                      Not really, since that is a lie as well.

                                      Ok, so let's go step by step. Are you saying Trump didn't say he won in a landslide in 2016 after citing his electoral vote count?

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                                      @89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                      @larry said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                      @jon-nyc said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                      He doesn’t say it’s true, he says it meets Trump’s standards. That’s vastly different.

                                      Not really, since that is a lie as well.

                                      Ok, so let's go step by step. Are you saying Trump didn't say he won in a landslide in 2016 after citing his electoral vote count?

                                      I'm saying Biden didn't win anywhere close to the number of electoral votes he's going to get. I don't deal in your world of fantasy.

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                                        Of course.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          One of my favorite parts was Trump rattling off a bunch of conspiracy theories without evidence other than "this is what I've heard!" which resulted in a "sir, that didn't happen" replies. What a buffoon living in his own reality. "We won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes! Just look at my rally sizes!" hahahaha what a child, as if that has anything to do with actual votes.

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                                          @89th said in “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated.":

                                          One of my favorite parts was Trump rattling off a bunch of conspiracy theories without evidence other than "this is what I've heard!" which resulted in a "sir, that didn't happen" replies. What a buffoon living in his own reality. "We won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes! Just look at my rally sizes!" hahahaha what a child, as if that has anything to do with actual votes.

                                          I read the transcript (easier for me than listening to it) and you describe it well. Don’t know which is more sad - the President acting like this, or the fact that the Republic Georgia Secretary of State realized he had to record the conversation because there was a good chance the President would mis quote and mis characterize the conversation.

                                          There was the section where people in the White House tell President Trump that “Yes, Mr. President yes, it is correct what George’s secretary says.”

                                          President Trump responses, “ no,there are only two possible answers. They are either incompetent or dishonest.”

                                          1. Or maybe 😢😢😢

                                          transcript of call

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