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Trump's reaction to losing

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by
    #42

    @Jolly This Presidency is ending the same way as it started - accusations of voter fraud.

    He had 4 years and all the resources of the federal government to run that one down.

    He didn't. Without evidence, he has zero credibility here.

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    • X xenon

      @Jolly This Presidency is ending the same way as it started - accusations of voter fraud.

      He had 4 years and all the resources of the federal government to run that one down.

      He didn't. Without evidence, he has zero credibility here.

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      George K
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      #43

      @xenon said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      resources of the federal government

      They were busy investigating RUSSIA!!

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #44

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        You were warned.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

          You cannot put the genie back in the box.

          As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

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          Horace
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          #45

          @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

          You cannot put the genie back in the box.

          As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

          So convenient. But your hatred really was the first one.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #46

            @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

            Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

            Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

              Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

              Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by Jolly
              #47

              @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

              @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

              Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

              Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

              It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

                Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

                It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

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                Axtremus
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                #48

                @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

                Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

                It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

                Which tells you the importance of access. Even authoritarian regime has to go to great lengths to manufacture the appearance of high turnout to fake legitimacy.

                Russia has a different access problem: viable oppositions have no access to the ballot itself — they cannot get their names onto the ballot.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #49

                  In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

                  People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

                    People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

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                    Axtremus
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                    #50

                    @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                    In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

                    Not at all.

                    People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

                    You feel cheated more immediately if you do not even get to cast a vote.

                    Or, for that matter, when you are prohibited from voting for the person you want to vote for.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #51

                      Wrong.

                      If the ballot is secure, it means something.

                      You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Wrong.

                        If the ballot is secure, it means something.

                        You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

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                        Axtremus
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                        #52

                        @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                        Wrong.

                        If the ballot is secure, it means something.

                        You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

                        Wrong. You have to be able to vote first before there is even such a thing as “your vote” to go anywhere.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #53

                          If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

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                            Axtremus
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                            #54

                            @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                            If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

                            There is no “security” for your vote to speak of if you cannot cast a vote in the first place.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #55

                              There is no security with fascists, anyway.

                              See "Trump List Project".

                              Those are your buddies, not mine...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #56

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                                You were warned.

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                                  Larry
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #57

                                  Jolly, he's a fool. You can't win an argument with a fool. All you can do with a fool is treat him like the fool he is.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                    #58

                                    Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                                    You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                      George K
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

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                                      I wasn't on this forum in 2000, but that could be a picture of Al Gore, couldn't it?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                                        You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #60

                                        @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                        Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                                        You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

                                        Exactly.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #61

                                          You were warned.

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