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Trump's reaction to losing

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

    It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

    You cannot put the genie back in the box.

    As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

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    Horace
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    @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

    @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

    It's broken. There are millions of people who no longer trust the ballot box.

    You cannot put the genie back in the box.

    As I said Perhaps Trump’s biggest legacy.

    So convenient. But your hatred really was the first one.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

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      @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

      Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

        Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

        Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

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        #47

        @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

        @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

        Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

        Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

        It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

          Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

          It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

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          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

          Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

          It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

          Which tells you the importance of access. Even authoritarian regime has to go to great lengths to manufacture the appearance of high turnout to fake legitimacy.

          Russia has a different access problem: viable oppositions have no access to the ballot itself — they cannot get their names onto the ballot.

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            In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

            People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

              People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

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              #50

              @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

              In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

              Not at all.

              People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

              You feel cheated more immediately if you do not even get to cast a vote.

              Or, for that matter, when you are prohibited from voting for the person you want to vote for.

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                Jolly
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                Wrong.

                If the ballot is secure, it means something.

                You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Wrong.

                  If the ballot is secure, it means something.

                  You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

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                  @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                  Wrong.

                  If the ballot is secure, it means something.

                  You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

                  Wrong. You have to be able to vote first before there is even such a thing as “your vote” to go anywhere.

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                    Jolly
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                    #53

                    If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

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                      @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                      If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

                      There is no “security” for your vote to speak of if you cannot cast a vote in the first place.

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                        There is no security with fascists, anyway.

                        See "Trump List Project".

                        Those are your buddies, not mine...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          You were warned.

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                            Jolly, he's a fool. You can't win an argument with a fool. All you can do with a fool is treat him like the fool he is.

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                              #58

                              Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                              You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

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                                I wasn't on this forum in 2000, but that could be a picture of Al Gore, couldn't it?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                                  You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

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                                  @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                  Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                                  You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

                                  Exactly.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    You were warned.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #62

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                                      You were warned.

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                                        "The best pollster in Britain" is apparently an opinion piece in the Daily Express written by a DC-based right wing organisation., the Democracy Institute.

                                        Trump really is a clown.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                          Thank you for showing us yet another example of how our freedoms are under attack from the Left.

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