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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

    Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

    Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

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    @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

    @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

    Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

    Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

    It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

      Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

      It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

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      @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      @Axtremus said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

      Access means nothing, if nobody trusts the results.

      Democracy means nothing of there is no access.

      It has been my observation, that the folks in the Soviet Union had an awful lot of access. Routine turnout was greater than 90%, wasn't it?

      Which tells you the importance of access. Even authoritarian regime has to go to great lengths to manufacture the appearance of high turnout to fake legitimacy.

      Russia has a different access problem: viable oppositions have no access to the ballot itself — they cannot get their names onto the ballot.

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        In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

        People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

          People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

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          @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

          In other words, ballot security should take precedence over ballot access.

          Not at all.

          People who feel cheated out of their votes , eventually rectify that problem. It tends to be a messy affair when they do.

          You feel cheated more immediately if you do not even get to cast a vote.

          Or, for that matter, when you are prohibited from voting for the person you want to vote for.

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            Wrong.

            If the ballot is secure, it means something.

            You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Wrong.

              If the ballot is secure, it means something.

              You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

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              @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

              Wrong.

              If the ballot is secure, it means something.

              You can have access all day long, but if your ballot gets no further than the dumpster, it means nothing.

              Wrong. You have to be able to vote first before there is even such a thing as “your vote” to go anywhere.

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                Jolly
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                If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

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                  @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                  If you know your ballot doesn't count, you don't care about access.

                  There is no “security” for your vote to speak of if you cannot cast a vote in the first place.

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                    There is no security with fascists, anyway.

                    See "Trump List Project".

                    Those are your buddies, not mine...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      72D009D8-C84E-409D-8B49-8333656EE0D3.jpeg

                      You were warned.

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                        Jolly, he's a fool. You can't win an argument with a fool. All you can do with a fool is treat him like the fool he is.

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                          #58

                          Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                          You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

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                            I wasn't on this forum in 2000, but that could be a picture of Al Gore, couldn't it?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                              You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

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                              @Jolly said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                              Kind of like a drunk in a bar?

                              You either walk away or beat the hell out of him?

                              Exactly.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                You were warned.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  You were warned.

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                                    "The best pollster in Britain" is apparently an opinion piece in the Daily Express written by a DC-based right wing organisation., the Democracy Institute.

                                    Trump really is a clown.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                      Thank you for showing us yet another example of how our freedoms are under attack from the Left.

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                                        "The best pollster in Britain" is apparently an opinion piece in the Daily Express written by a DC-based right wing organisation., the Democracy Institute.

                                        Trump really is a clown.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump's reaction to losing:

                                        "The best pollster in Britain" is apparently an opinion piece in the Daily Express written by a DC-based right wing organisation., the Democracy Institute.

                                        Trump really is a clown.

                                        The only clowns I see are all democrats.

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                                          The election was stolen. But it won't matter.

                                          The same sorry, low-life bastards who promoted a three year old witch hunt about Russia, trying their best to revoke the rule of law in the U.S. don't care.

                                          It's all about power. They don't care about right. They don't care about wrong. They care about power. If it meant getting Trump out of office they would say anything, tell any lie, pass on any rumor or do whatever it took.

                                          I think they would stop just short of whoring their kids out on the street.

                                          But I wonder...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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