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Calling the States

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:25 last edited by
    #82

    Where are you seeing that?

    If Fox, ignore it, their needles have proven a big disappointment tonight

    Also, probabilities converge to 100 as results come in, so 'X swing state showing 80%' is inevitable for all swing states.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:30 last edited by
      #83

      Minesoooota.

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      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Larry
        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:32 last edited by
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        This isn't the first time Philadelphia has tried to steal an election.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:32 last edited by
          #85

          Shocking thing - neither Trump nor Biden have tweeted much of anything tonight.

          A few retweets and Biden said something about staying in line if you're in line and the polls close.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • J jon-nyc
            4 Nov 2020, 05:32

            Shocking thing - neither Trump nor Biden have tweeted much of anything tonight.

            A few retweets and Biden said something about staying in line if you're in line and the polls close.

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            Loki
            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:34 last edited by
            #86

            @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

            Shocking thing - neither Trump nor Biden have tweeted much of anything tonight.

            A few retweets and Biden said something about staying in line if you're in line and the polls close.

            More shocking about Trump. Can’t believe he was muzzled.

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              Loki
              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:35 last edited by
              #87

              I m seeing the senate stays GOP? Is that consensus?

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:35 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 05:36
                #88

                What the NYT is saying about its GA shift:

                (the 3 states it is referring to are GA, FL, NC. All night they were predicting Trump all 3, now they've switched GA)

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                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • J jon-nyc
                  4 Nov 2020, 05:25

                  Where are you seeing that?

                  If Fox, ignore it, their needles have proven a big disappointment tonight

                  Also, probabilities converge to 100 as results come in, so 'X swing state showing 80%' is inevitable for all swing states.

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:43 last edited by
                  #89

                  Now it's 70%.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

                  Where are you seeing that?

                  If Fox, ignore it, their needles have proven a big disappointment tonight

                  Also, probabilities converge to 100 as results come in, so 'X swing state showing 80%' is inevitable for all swing states.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:46 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 05:48
                    #90

                    Oh, that's not a probability, it's a vote count.

                    The reporting of results happens by precinct (mini-district). So it's hard to tell what it means unless you know which districts have reported their results.

                    Imagine 3% reporting in Pennsylvania. Is it from a rural area in the middle of the state? Or from a black neighborhood in Philly? The two will give you lopsided opposite answers.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 05:51 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 05:53
                      #91

                      Some of the more professional news organizations have detailed information about each district and how it is expected to vote, based on demographics, polling, and voting history.

                      Armed with that info, they can make intelligent guesses about how the whole state is trending based on how the actual results of a few districts compare to their expectations.

                      Thats how these states get 'called' early, and how those 'probability needles' work.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 06:00 last edited by
                        #92

                        Ok I’m going to bed.

                        I think the NYT Georgia thing is just a hiccup.

                        But still this is anyone’s race. Quite a bit closer than I was expecting and hoping for.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 06:23 last edited by
                          #93

                          Nate is saying Biden looking good in NE02.

                          Michigan and Wisconsin make him president

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 06:24 last edited by
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                            Please love yourself.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 07:11 last edited by
                              #95

                              So, all of TNCR (except me) went to bed? Unbelievable!

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                                4 Nov 2020, 07:11

                                So, all of TNCR (except me) went to bed? Unbelievable!

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 07:15 last edited by
                                #96

                                @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                So, all of TNCR (except me) went to bed? Unbelievable!

                                I'm still up.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 07:19 last edited by
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                                  I’m cheating by being on the west coast

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                                    Klaus
                                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 10:51 last edited by
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                                    Here's one thing I don't understand.

                                    Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

                                    The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

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                                      4 Nov 2020, 10:51

                                      Here's one thing I don't understand.

                                      Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

                                      The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

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                                      Rich
                                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 10:55 last edited by
                                      #99

                                      @Klaus

                                      Yeah, those were the days.

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                                        4 Nov 2020, 10:51

                                        Here's one thing I don't understand.

                                        Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

                                        The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 11:02 last edited by
                                        #100

                                        @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                        The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

                                        Candidates can gum up the works by demanding a recount.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 11:31 last edited by
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                                          I’ve been up since 5 am

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