Trump to unveil healthcare plan
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@Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
Are you even aware that networks are a result of government interference stifling competition?
Sure - that may be the case. That's not inconsistent with what I'm saying.
There's no one in the system now - doctors, patients, insurers - who is controlling cost.
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@Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
Are you aware that the world existed before 1985?
So what's the formula then? What changed in the 70's that could bring cost control mechanisms back to the healthcare market?
Can we at least agree that much of the cost of care is going up because we have way more advanced, numerous and expensive therapies than in the past?
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@Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
Good God....
What are you even saying? At least I'm telling you where I'm coming from.
That the cost of therapies is going up, pushing up the cost of insurance. Doctors or hospitals don't try to contain cost when thinking about savings patients lives.
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@Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
You insist on making everything fit through the system you know. It's like beating my head against a wall trying to get you to stop doing that.
I really don't know what you're talking about.
I'm no healthcare expert. I don't know much about healthcare.
I was surprised when I moved here that - if I had sufficient insurance (my employer's plan), I could see pretty much any doctor I wanted. (good doc, shitty doc - if you go by 3rd party review sites or credential prestige, or reputation)
We had 3 hospital systems to choose from for my wife's pregnancy (only real experience we have with the system here). No difference in cost to us.
Doctors don't typically charge you more or less if they think a procedure is warranted.
Doctors don't think about cost-first when trying to treat patients.
And again - my cost point. (therapies are getting more and more expensive - which makes insurance more expensive)
That's it.
I expected a lot more of a market-based system in the U.S. when I moved here - and it's not a market based system.
That's it. That's my point.
I don't know what you're getting riled up about.
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@xenon said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
@Copper said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
@xenon said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
Do you pay more out of pocket for the best surgeon or ortho? Should you?
Why wouldn't you pay more for higher quality?
You do that for everything else, food, clothing, shelter, transportation, toys and games.
Have you ever explicitly paid more or less for specific physicians?
Yes.
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@xenon said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:
@Jolly And what context was that in?
Were you insured? Why did you have to go beyond insurance?
Insured. Out of network. One of the top vascular guys in the South.
