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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Jolly said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

    John McCain sunk the GOP's healthcare plan.

    He died in 2018. Trump's been saying they're about to release a plan well into 2020.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

    @Jolly said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

    John McCain sunk the GOP's healthcare plan.

    He died in 2018. Trump's been saying they're about to release a plan well into 2020.

    That's the closest they came and McCain did it out of spite.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

      @Jolly said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

      John McCain sunk the GOP's healthcare plan.

      He died in 2018. Trump's been saying they're about to release a plan well into 2020.

      That's the closest they came and McCain did it out of spite.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      @Jolly said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

      @Jolly said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

      John McCain sunk the GOP's healthcare plan.

      He died in 2018. Trump's been saying they're about to release a plan well into 2020.

      That's the closest they came and McCain did it out of spite.

      Maybe. There's sure no shortage of spite with the other guy, either.

      One day he's going to stop acting like a 4 year old when people say they don't like him. But it won't be this day.

      I was only joking

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        taiwan_girl
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        I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

        To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

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          Larry
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          #8

          https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/518584-yes-trump-has-a-health-care-plan-he-has-been-implementing-it

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          • LarryL Larry

            https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/518584-yes-trump-has-a-health-care-plan-he-has-been-implementing-it

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            taiwan_girl
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            @Larry unfortunately, President Trump doesn’t agree, as he keeps talking about putting out a new health care plan. 555

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              Also Newt Gingrich left out the part about going to the Supreme Court to have the pre-existing condition coverage mandate (and the rest of the ACA) ruled unconstitutional.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Larry
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                Maybe he's just trying to deal with the cat herding required to deal with all the bull shit your side slings. Who knows. But that's the story from The Hill, you're not going to believe anything but what you believe anyway.

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                • LarryL Larry

                  Maybe he's just trying to deal with the cat herding required to deal with all the bull shit your side slings. Who knows. But that's the story from The Hill, you're not going to believe anything but what you believe anyway.

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                  taiwan_girl
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                  @Larry you mean you believe the article over President Trump.

                  (Just joking with you)

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Also Newt Gingrich left out the part about going to the Supreme Court to have the pre-existing condition coverage mandate (and the rest of the ACA) ruled unconstitutional.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                    Also Newt Gingrich left out the part about going to the Supreme Court to have the pre-existing condition coverage mandate (and the rest of the ACA) ruled unconstitutional.

                    Trump has consistently made it clear that pre existing conditions will be covered.

                    There IS a way to solve the health insurance issue, though. Get the government out of it all the way around.

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                      Thats not 'the story from The Hill'. Thats an opinion piece by Newt.

                      Anyway, tg is right. Trump still thinks the plan is in development, to be released any week now.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Larry you mean you believe the article over President Trump.

                        (Just joking with you)

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                        @Larry you mean you believe the article over President Trump.

                        (Just joking with you)

                        No, I believe that nothing you say about Trump can be trusted.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          Trump has talked about preserving pre-existing condition coverage and even signed a totally ineffectual EO on it.

                          But the solicitor general's case in front of Scotus is quite real.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Thats not 'the story from The Hill'. Thats an opinion piece by Newt.

                            Anyway, tg is right. Trump still thinks the plan is in development, to be released any week now.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                            Thats not 'the story from The Hill'. Thats an opinion piece by Newt.

                            Anyway, tg is right. Trump still thinks the plan is in development, to be released any week now.

                            Ok. I'm not trying to die on this hill. I just offered another viewpoint.

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                              I'm old enough to remember what the health insurance market was like before politicians (oddly enough, the democrats) decided to jump in and "fix" it. Any insurance company was free to offer their products in any state they wanted to, the consumer had tons of options, competition kept premiums low. You could buy Major Medical plans with very low premiums. As an example, the insurance policy would pay 80% of your medical bills and you paid the other 20% until you had spent 1,000 out of your own pocket, then the insurance paid 100% 25 bucks a month. If you had a pre existing condition there would be a 6 month period that that condition was not covered, then after 6 months your pre existing condition was covered.

                              Then politicians (democrats) decided to "fix it" and regulated the hell out of it, and created the very mess you think they are going to fix now. So you see Obama care as a good thing, I see it, and your faith in the democrats as well, and some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                I'm old enough to remember what the health insurance market was like before politicians (oddly enough, the democrats) decided to jump in and "fix" it. Any insurance company was free to offer their products in any state they wanted to, the consumer had tons of options, competition kept premiums low. You could buy Major Medical plans with very low premiums. As an example, the insurance policy would pay 80% of your medical bills and you paid the other 20% until you had spent 1,000 out of your own pocket, then the insurance paid 100% 25 bucks a month. If you had a pre existing condition there would be a 6 month period that that condition was not covered, then after 6 months your pre existing condition was covered.

                                Then politicians (democrats) decided to "fix it" and regulated the hell out of it, and created the very mess you think they are going to fix now. So you see Obama care as a good thing, I see it, and your faith in the democrats as well, and some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

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                                @Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                I'm old enough to remember what the health insurance market was like before politicians (oddly enough, the democrats) decided to jump in and "fix" it. Any insurance company was free to offer their products in any state they wanted to, the consumer had tons of options, competition kept premiums low. You could buy Major Medical plans with very low premiums. As an example, the insurance policy would pay 80% of your medical bills and you paid the other 20% until you had spent 1,000 out of your own pocket, then the insurance paid 100% 25 bucks a month. If you had a pre existing condition there would be a 6 month period that that condition was not covered, then after 6 months your pre existing condition was covered.

                                Then politicians (democrats) decided to "fix it" and regulated the hell out of it, and created the very mess you think they are going to fix now. So you see Obama care as a good thing, I see it, and your faith in the democrats as well, and some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

                                Mitt Romney (Rep) fixed the one in Massachusetts. This was prior to Obama being President.

                                I actually thought it was a good idea, since prior to this lots of people didn't have health insurance, which is a bloody stupid way to go through life unless you're very wealthy.

                                I was only joking

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                                  If the democrats hadn't fucked things up long before Romney got into politics there wouldn't have been a need for Romney to "fix" anything in the first place.

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                    To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                    I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                    To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                    I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                    To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

                                    McCain was THE deciding vote.

                                    Do keep up, please.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      @Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                      I'm old enough to remember what the health insurance market was like before politicians (oddly enough, the democrats) decided to jump in and "fix" it. Any insurance company was free to offer their products in any state they wanted to, the consumer had tons of options, competition kept premiums low. You could buy Major Medical plans with very low premiums. As an example, the insurance policy would pay 80% of your medical bills and you paid the other 20% until you had spent 1,000 out of your own pocket, then the insurance paid 100% 25 bucks a month. If you had a pre existing condition there would be a 6 month period that that condition was not covered, then after 6 months your pre existing condition was covered.

                                      Then politicians (democrats) decided to "fix it" and regulated the hell out of it, and created the very mess you think they are going to fix now. So you see Obama care as a good thing, I see it, and your faith in the democrats as well, and some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

                                      Mitt Romney (Rep) fixed the one in Massachusetts. This was prior to Obama being President.

                                      I actually thought it was a good idea, since prior to this lots of people didn't have health insurance, which is a bloody stupid way to go through life unless you're very wealthy.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      #22

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                      @Larry said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                      I'm old enough to remember what the health insurance market was like before politicians (oddly enough, the democrats) decided to jump in and "fix" it. Any insurance company was free to offer their products in any state they wanted to, the consumer had tons of options, competition kept premiums low. You could buy Major Medical plans with very low premiums. As an example, the insurance policy would pay 80% of your medical bills and you paid the other 20% until you had spent 1,000 out of your own pocket, then the insurance paid 100% 25 bucks a month. If you had a pre existing condition there would be a 6 month period that that condition was not covered, then after 6 months your pre existing condition was covered.

                                      Then politicians (democrats) decided to "fix it" and regulated the hell out of it, and created the very mess you think they are going to fix now. So you see Obama care as a good thing, I see it, and your faith in the democrats as well, and some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

                                      Mitt Romney (Rep) fixed the one in Massachusetts. This was prior to Obama being President.

                                      I actually thought it was a good idea, since prior to this lots of people didn't have health insurance, which is a bloody stupid way to go through life unless you're very wealthy.

                                      How's the vaunted NHS working out for the Brits nowadays?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                        I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                        To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                        I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                        To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

                                        McCain was THE deciding vote.

                                        Do keep up, please.

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                                        @Jolly said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                        I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                        To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump to unveil healthcare plan:

                                        I think that the republics controlled BOTH the US house and senate for the first two years.

                                        To say that Senator McCain was the only reason the new republic healthcare plan is not in place is nave. The republics had 52 people in the senate in 2016-2018. Plus control of the house PLUS the President.

                                        McCain was THE deciding vote.

                                        Do keep up, please.

                                        He was one of many votes.

                                        It is one thing to say to get rid of ACA, but without alternate, it is not a surprise the overall majority of the Republic Controlled Senate voted against it.

                                        If Senator McCain were so powerful, he would have been president

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                                          Jesus.

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