Second Wave?
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I’ve got a suspicion the asymptomatic cases are through the roof and we just don’t know it.
I am also remembering a theory from back in February/March that the total numbers would ultimately be the same no matter what, the only question was if we could stretch them out and protect the vulnerable.
The Brad
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Sauerkraut, @Klaus , your wonderfully sauerkraut. Man, I miss real sauerkraut.
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CFR has been a polluted number to think about forever. IMO it does more harm than good. Anybody who would like to disseminate a CFR should do some legwork to use a reasonable approximation of an IFR instead. Every time someone talks about CFR, a kitten with no comorbidities dies.
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I wonder what France, Spain etc. do differently than Germany. The infection rates in these countries are almost at all-time highs again, whereas they are only slightly higher over here.
@Klaus said in Second Wave?:
I wonder what France, Spain etc. do differently than Germany. The infection rates in these countries are almost at all-time highs again, whereas they are only slightly higher over here.
I hate to bring in national stereotypes, but sometimes it's hard not to state the obvious.
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I think that more and more younger people are having it now. That definitely has a "impact" on the Case Fatality Rate. (And maybe even teh infection rate also)
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I’ve got a suspicion the asymptomatic cases are through the roof and we just don’t know it.
I am also remembering a theory from back in February/March that the total numbers would ultimately be the same no matter what, the only question was if we could stretch them out and protect the vulnerable.
@LuFins-Dad said in Second Wave?:
I’ve got a suspicion the asymptomatic cases are through the roof and we just don’t know it.
I am also remembering a theory from back in February/March that the total numbers would ultimately be the same no matter what, the only question was if we could stretch them out and protect the vulnerable.
I don't think the theory is wrong. The goal has always been to flatten the curve. Any sane person knows we won't eradicate this.
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Less HCQ
But seriously I think there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it.
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I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.
Education is extremely important.
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I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.
@Horace said in Second Wave?:
I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.
Good luck!!!!
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@Horace said in Second Wave?:
I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.
Good luck!!!!
@taiwan_girl said in Second Wave?:
@Horace said in Second Wave?:
I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.
Good luck!!!!
Thanks TG. Third time's a charm!
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I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.
@Horace said in Second Wave?:
I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.
Horace, I work with COVID patients. The phlebotomist couldn't stick one Sunday, so I had to gown up and go procure the specimens. Twice.
I lie my happy ass off.
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Less HCQ
But seriously I think there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it.
@bachophile said in Second Wave?:
there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it
You're a lot closer to this than I am, so perhaps you can fill us in on what's different and what's better?
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@bachophile said in Second Wave?:
there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it
You're a lot closer to this than I am, so perhaps you can fill us in on what's different and what's better?
@George-K said in Second Wave?:
@bachophile said in Second Wave?:
there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it
You're a lot closer to this than I am, so perhaps you can fill us in on what's different and what's better?
Different? Much less panic and therefore much less being strict about things.
Some of the panicky stuff we did, wiping down everything, not leaving the house at all, that’s all gone by the way side.
But in terms of numbers we are 100 times worse. No more endemic areas or hot zones. Now everywhere is a hot zone. The spread is basically nationwide.
Medically, a lot less intubations. Lots of vents sitting in storage unused after there’s was a mad rush to get more and more, remember that?
A lot of better care with dexa and remdesevir. But the beds are filling up fast and that’s going to have an impact
Anyway, lockdown now but it’s not as strict. People can go to work as long as there is no public service rendered. Like restaurants are all closed. But private offices are all open.
What’s the same? Still a royal pain in the ass.
