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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Testing phenomena?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Horace
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      CFR has been a polluted number to think about forever. IMO it does more harm than good. Anybody who would like to disseminate a CFR should do some legwork to use a reasonable approximation of an IFR instead. Every time someone talks about CFR, a kitten with no comorbidities dies.

      Education is extremely important.

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        I’ve got a suspicion the asymptomatic cases are through the roof and we just don’t know it.

        I am also remembering a theory from back in February/March that the total numbers would ultimately be the same no matter what, the only question was if we could stretch them out and protect the vulnerable.

        The Brad

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          I wonder what France, Spain etc. do differently than Germany. The infection rates in these countries are almost at all-time highs again, whereas they are only slightly higher over here.

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            Sauerkraut, @Klaus , your wonderfully sauerkraut. Man, I miss real sauerkraut.

            The Brad

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            • HoraceH Horace

              CFR has been a polluted number to think about forever. IMO it does more harm than good. Anybody who would like to disseminate a CFR should do some legwork to use a reasonable approximation of an IFR instead. Every time someone talks about CFR, a kitten with no comorbidities dies.

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              jon-nyc
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              #7

              @Horace said in Second Wave?:

              Every time someone talks about CFR, a kitten with no comorbidities dies.

              Yes but an old kitten. Prolly in a nursing home.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • KlausK Klaus

                I wonder what France, Spain etc. do differently than Germany. The infection rates in these countries are almost at all-time highs again, whereas they are only slightly higher over here.

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                @Klaus said in Second Wave?:

                I wonder what France, Spain etc. do differently than Germany. The infection rates in these countries are almost at all-time highs again, whereas they are only slightly higher over here.

                I hate to bring in national stereotypes, but sometimes it's hard not to state the obvious.

                I was only joking

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                  I think that more and more younger people are having it now. That definitely has a "impact" on the Case Fatality Rate. (And maybe even teh infection rate also)

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    I’ve got a suspicion the asymptomatic cases are through the roof and we just don’t know it.

                    I am also remembering a theory from back in February/March that the total numbers would ultimately be the same no matter what, the only question was if we could stretch them out and protect the vulnerable.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Second Wave?:

                    I’ve got a suspicion the asymptomatic cases are through the roof and we just don’t know it.

                    I am also remembering a theory from back in February/March that the total numbers would ultimately be the same no matter what, the only question was if we could stretch them out and protect the vulnerable.

                    I don't think the theory is wrong. The goal has always been to flatten the curve. Any sane person knows we won't eradicate this.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      The curve is flat.

                      As promised.

                      Thank you Mr. Trump.

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                        Less HCQ

                        But seriously I think there has been a learning curve on treatment and we are just better at it.

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                          Jolly
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                          #13

                          Anecdotally speaking, from a very small sliver of information...Most of the positive COVID tests I'm seeing are not the nursing home set. They're 50 and down...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
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                            I’m getting a test today.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              I’m getting a test today.

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                              @Horace said in Second Wave?:

                              I’m getting a test today.

                              Feeling a bit poorly?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Taking MFR for a test today. She's having a routine preventitive procedure Friday.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

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                                      @Horace said in Second Wave?:

                                      I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

                                      Good luck!!!! 🍀

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @Horace said in Second Wave?:

                                        I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

                                        Good luck!!!! 🍀

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Second Wave?:

                                        @Horace said in Second Wave?:

                                        I have a surgery for my thumb on Friday and they require a test prior. This is a new rule as of a month or so ago.

                                        Good luck!!!! 🍀

                                        Thanks TG. Third time's a charm!

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.

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                                          @Horace said in Second Wave?:

                                          I'm not going to tell them I was just on a plane to and from Missouri when they ask about recent travels because screw arbitrary COVID rules. Not that I think that would be disqualifying, but I'm not going to bother with the discussion and potential complications.

                                          Horace, I work with COVID patients. The phlebotomist couldn't stick one Sunday, so I had to gown up and go procure the specimens. Twice.

                                          I lie my happy ass off.🤠

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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