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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #43

    State releases statement:

    https://www.doj.state.wi.us/news-releases/update-kenosha-officer-involved-shooting-0

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #44

      Ok so kind of as we expected. He was being arrested for a violation/domestic crime, resisted arrest including a taser, and had a knife or was reaching for one while the cops yelled for him to stop.

      It’s mind boggling this is even controversial.

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      • RainmanR Offline
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        Rainman
        wrote on last edited by
        #45

        I wonder if this is a version of suicide by cop.
        Like, "I'm a loser, I'm high, and I don't care what happens next."

        You would have to be high on something, maybe + drunk, to walk away from cops with their guns pulled, knowing that if they start shooting, there are kids in the car that could be killed.

        No. Even if I were high as a kite, I would never put my kids or anyone's kids in jeopardy. That's like basic instinct or something.

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        • 89th8 89th

          @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

          Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

          I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

          KincaidK Offline
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          Kincaid
          wrote on last edited by
          #46

          @89th said in Blake Shooting:

          @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

          Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

          I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

          We don't negotiate with terrorists.

          MikM 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Showing us the horrors of Trump’s America is supposed to make people vote for him again?

            LarryL Offline
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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #47

            @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

            Showing us the horrors of Trump’s America is supposed to make people vote for him again?

            Oh come on Jon, you know better than that.

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            • KincaidK Kincaid

              @89th said in Blake Shooting:

              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

              Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

              I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

              We don't negotiate with terrorists.

              MikM Offline
              MikM Offline
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #48

              @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

              @89th said in Blake Shooting:

              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

              Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

              I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

              We don't negotiate with terrorists.

              👍

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • L Offline
                L Offline
                Loki
                wrote on last edited by
                #49

                There is another version of the cop’s perspective of what he saw and witnessed that the MSM will never ever talk about.

                That version could be deeply wrong and murder even but the fact that the MSM deems it wrong to even air it is so worthy of a national conversation.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #50

                  Have the cops released their side of the story? I’ve not seen it. Not that I’ve looked that hard.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #51

                    alt text

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #52

                      I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

                      It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                      George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

                        It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #53

                        @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                        I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

                        It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

                        Yes.

                        The other question was was he reaching for the knife?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #54

                          The problem here is as illustrated by the video George posted in Playing Cop. Here is a guy who has already struggled, been tazed, still gets up and walks away, ignoring police commands AT GUNPOINT, then tries to get into his car contrary to orders. The officer had no time to wait to see it he came around with a weapon.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Offline
                            MikM Offline
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #55

                            https://bluelivesmatter.blue/wisconsin-doj-confirms-jacob-blake-was-armed-when-he-was-shot/?fbclid=IwAR1C1IwR9Gl5evgOP8bJlc-Bxdrml1jXITthhnjXYEGZHaoTQOeFNHCrGSc

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                              I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

                              It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

                              Yes.

                              The other question was was he reaching for the knife?

                              L Offline
                              L Offline
                              Loki
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #56

                              @George-K said in Blake Shooting:

                              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                              I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

                              It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

                              Yes.

                              The other question was was he reaching for the knife?

                              So the guy is down. Is able to free himself, has been tased to no effect and ignores police commands and goes to the other side of the car and opens the door and is reaching down. What is the cop supposed to be thinking?

                              Not sure this is the sequence of events but what if it is?

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #57

                                I haven’t actually seen the video.

                                I still haven’t seen the Floyd video either.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • KincaidK Kincaid

                                  @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                  Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                                  I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

                                  We don't negotiate with terrorists.

                                  89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #58

                                  @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

                                  @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                  Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                                  I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

                                  We don't negotiate with terrorists.

                                  I’m not saying we should, or do. I’m just saying I think that will be the outcome. Reduced mob chaos.

                                  HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    I haven’t actually seen the video.

                                    I still haven’t seen the Floyd video either.

                                    89th8 Offline
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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #59

                                    @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                    I haven’t actually seen the video.

                                    I still haven’t seen the Floyd video either.

                                    If you watch Floyd, watch the newer video too, where he’s struggling in the back seat and claiming he can’t breathe a few minutes before he’s even put on the ground.

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                                    • CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #60

                                      Out of the millions of innocent black men shot by police every year, why can't we find just one with a nice story and clear video?

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

                                        @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                        Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                                        I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

                                        We don't negotiate with terrorists.

                                        I’m not saying we should, or do. I’m just saying I think that will be the outcome. Reduced mob chaos.

                                        HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #61

                                        @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                                        @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

                                        @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                        Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                                        I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

                                        We don't negotiate with terrorists.

                                        I’m not saying we should, or do. I’m just saying I think that will be the outcome. Reduced mob chaos.

                                        I think it would be made more clear by saying "if Biden wins, the media will reduce its deliberate attempts to incite violence".

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • 89th8 Offline
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                                          89th
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #62

                                          Also true. Absolutely.

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