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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #14

    AFAIK, Kenosha cops do not have body-cams. That'll change in about a week.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Loki
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      #15

      A new video from a different angle seems to make it less likely he had reached for a gun in the car as proximate cause. He goes from being on the ground held by police to being up and moving toward the other side of the car and then shot. Shot 7 times and apparently has both intensives removed along with the paralysis.

      We haven’t heard the cops side of the story but it looks horrible at face value.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

        It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

        I saw someone on social media say he specifically told them he was getting his gun. Is that true? Haven't seen it elsewhere.

        One thing I can say is I've been punked enough by incomplete video snippets over the years to avoid drawing conclusions prematurely.

        KincaidK Offline
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        Kincaid
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        #16

        @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

        @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

        It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

        I saw someone on social media say he specifically told them he was getting his gun. Is that true? Haven't seen it elsewhere.

        One thing I can say is I've been punked enough by incomplete video snippets over the years to avoid drawing conclusions prematurely.

        I also heard he was tazed to no effect. But you are right about "early reportage".

        Watched a video the other day of a guy the police were putting cuffs on. He struggled, with them and they did taze him. Before they could get cuffs on him he struggled more and got away. He got to his car, pulled his gun and put pills in both cops.

        People think putting a teacher in a COVID-age class room as a risk too great to the teacher. They never signed up to be willing to die for their job. But a cop is supposed to wait for Mr. Blake to turn around with a visible pistol before they get to shoot? Yes, cops signed up to put their life on the line. But not to have to put themselves at that much of a disadvantage.

        Every news anchor and politician that doesn't call for calm and order and to wait until the facts comes out is responsible for every riot, all the property damage, injury, and the deaths that come with their irresponsible race baiting.

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          In all of the dozens of riot-inducing videos, I think in every single case, it’s someone resisting arrest.

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            LuFins Dad
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            Another case of police under a Democrat Mayor and Democrat controlled council attacking an unarmed black man. Why do these Democrat City Officials keep attacking African Americans?

            The Brad

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            • 89th8 89th

              In all of the dozens of riot-inducing videos, I think in every single case, it’s someone resisting arrest.

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              jon-nyc
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              #19

              @89th said in Blake Shooting:

              In all of the dozens of riot-inducing videos, I think in every single case, it’s someone resisting arrest.

              That’s almost true, but doesn’t mean they were good shots.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                #20

                But it gives lie to the cries of racism.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  #21

                  Not in itself it doesn’t. One could preferentially shoot a particular ethnic group at the slightest sign of resistance and not others.

                  Please nobody misunderstand the previous sentence.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #22

                    Screen Shot 2020-08-26 at 6.53.30 AM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #23

                      Showing us the horrors of Trump’s America is supposed to make people vote for him again?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #24

                        Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Jolly
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                          #25

                          More whites are shot by police than blacks. People counter that by stating whites are a higher percentage of the population, which is true, but they never follow it up with another fact...Blacks commit more crimes as a percentage of the population.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
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                            (Obviously, it's from The Bee)

                            I just thought that the last sentence was hysterical.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

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                              #27

                              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                              Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                              You think you'll get less with Biden?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
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                                #28

                                We won't for a while. The threat of more rioting is not a reason to vote Democrat. Trump is not the cause of the cause of the riots. It is just the continuing efforts of the left to ratchet everything up to 11. Been doing it for four years now.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #29

                                  Obviously there will be less rioting if Biden is elected. At least of this type.

                                  One would imagine we’d see more activity on the right, but that would take time to develop.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Loki
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                                    #30

                                    @George-K said in Blake Shooting:

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                                    I’m pretty convinced that the real “generation gap” for me is that there isn’t even a pretense for interest in or need for real news anymore. People think that rhetoric and satire is the height of intelligence, and these are the only skill sets needed to run things. I find it tedious and boring when not destructive.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Obviously there will be less rioting if Biden is elected. At least of this type.

                                      One would imagine we’d see more activity on the right, but that would take time to develop.

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                                        Jolly
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                                        Most disturbing...

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                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Showing us the horrors of Trump’s America is supposed to make people vote for him again?

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #33

                                          @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                          Showing us the horrors of Trump’s America is supposed to make people vote for him again?

                                          When LD mentions that the shootings usually happen in cities controlled politically by the left, you test the rigor of his thinking by asking him to specify a null hypothesis. Then you blame Trump for the rioting 5 minutes later.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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