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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #941

    No nukes will be used. I think Jon's right. Opening up Hormuz is paramount.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #942

      No, nukes will not be deployed. There are plenty of conventional weapons that can complete the mission.

      The danger is whether the Iranians, in suicidal desperation, deploy their chemical stockpile.

      Then the gloves come will off.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
        wrote last edited by Mik
        #943

        I read they are using the supposedly obsolete A10s to hunt the fast boats.

        I’m a bit surprised our military did not have measures in place to keep the Strait open.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
          wrote last edited by jon-nyc
          #944

          I've thought about that too. A couple of ideas:

          • Maybe they game out actual physical closure due to mines, fast boats with guns, etc, which largely hasn't happened. This closure seems to be caused by insurance markets refusing to paper the crossings.

          • Maybe the countermeasures require ground forces that Trump just hasn't approved yet.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            A lot of prominent Iranian dissidents abroad are asking Trump not to attack the power plants, including Reza Palavi and that woman in Brooklyn they keep trying to kill.

            In the background I’m sure the GCC are asking him to hold off too.

            I think there’s a good chance he calls it off and says it’s in deference (not the word he’d use) to the dissidents.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote last edited by
            #945

            jon-nyc said:

            I think there’s a good chance he calls it off and says it’s in deference (not the word he’d use) to the dissidents.

            Or not.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            • kluursK Offline
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              kluurs
              wrote last edited by
              #946

              Word is that Putin told Trump he's really, really impressed with what we've done in Iran. Put that in the "win" column.

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              • kluursK kluurs

                Word is that Putin told Trump he's really, really impressed with what we've done in Iran. Put that in the "win" column.

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote last edited by
                #947

                @kluurs said:

                Word is that Putin told Trump he's really, really impressed with what we've done in Iran.

                That has got to be worth 30 pieces of silver to Trump.

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #948

                  That’s when you know you have royally fucked up.

                  “Never stop your enemy when he’s making a mistake “

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote last edited by Renauda
                    #949

                    …. It’s bad manners”.

                    ~ Rod Steiger as Napoleon in the film Waterloo snickers as he watches Wellington position his army in the field the morning of the battle.

                    Napoleon probably said no such thing at the time.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #950

                      Paywalled piece in the Economist summarizing Trump’s 4 options, but the tweet summarizes them nicely.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • bachophileB Offline
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                        bachophile
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                        #951

                        I AM PLEASE TO REPORT THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE COUNTRY OF IRAN, HAVE HAD, OVER THE LAST TWO DAYS, VERY GOOD AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL RESOLUTION OF OUR HOSTILITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. BASED ON THE TENOR AND TONE OF THESE IN DEPTH, DETAILED, AND CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS, WITCH WILL CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I HAVE INSTRUCTED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR TO POSTPONE ANY AND ALL MILITARY STRIKES AGAINST IRANIAN POWER PLANTS AND ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FIVE DAY PERIOD, SUBJECT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #952

                          Wow.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          • bachophileB Offline
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                            bachophile
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                            #953

                            witch (sic)

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                              #954

                              Was Israel at the table or on the menu?

                              It’s easier to imagine them promising whatever they need to in order to get the bombs to stop than to actually give up their proxies and their ballistic missile program. Or even “civilian” nuclear. But we’ll see.

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              • bachophileB Offline
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                                bachophile
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                                #955

                                all too fresh to digest....we shall see

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                                  bachophile
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                                  #956

                                  wonder what the market does today

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      • bachophileB Offline
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                                        bachophile
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #959

                                        maybe should be expected but Iran just denied that there is any discussion and the struggle will continue until the satan is defeated (or so says some member of the iranian parliament)

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                                        • 89th8 Online
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                                          #960
                                          1. Is it universally agreed now that Trump "art of the deal" is the worst deal maker in history?
                                          2. It is not a surprise that a vague Trump tweet is his plan to get out of this war with minimal egg on his face
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