FINALLY... Justice for Denise

[Improviso]

May he rot in hell.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-executes-convict-2008-rape-killing-woman-whose-final-call-sparked-911-reforms

[Mik]

That was relatively fast - 17 years.

[Mik]

Good to see you here, Improv.

[Improviso]

Link to video

[89th]

Thanks for the update Improv. It's remarkable to see her sons nearly the same age she was when this happened.

[Mik]

Thirteen family members were there. I wonder if Peggy was.

[Horace]

I know that Larry really did care about this thing.

[Mik]

It does make me think about my opposition to capital punishment - how I can believe that yet feel some sense of satisfaction that this monster breathes no more.

[89th]

I think that's a natural feeling. If I were in charge, I'd make death row far more of a laborious punishment. Move bricks for 15 hours every day. In other words, increase the deterrent.

[jon-nyc]

Wow. 17 years. Look at those ‘kids’ now. Crazy.

Thanks for posting this Imrpov and good to see you.

[jon-nyc]

@Mik said:

It does make me think about my opposition to capital punishment - how I can believe that yet feel some sense of satisfaction that this monster breathes no more.

Easy for me, I’m not against it in theory so much as in practice. Too many innocents have been convicted of murders they didn’t commit. But I’m satisfied they got the right guy and happy to see him fry.

[mark]

I am also conflicted about the death penalty. Far too many innocent people have been murdered by the state but I am also OK with this, and other cases that deal with such truly guilty monsters.

[taiwan_girl]

I am not against the death penalty, but I think it is a waste of money. I believe it does nothing to prevent crime or make people think twice about doing crime. It costs huge amounts of money to keep someone on death row, and takes forever (if ever) for execution. Doing life in prison is hard, regardless of what you did.

I remember reading an article (I think about Malaysia but am not sure) about different court "philosophies" and in the US, we would rather have 99 guilty people go free so that we do not accidentally do something to 1 innocent person. In Malaysia(?), it is "okay" to have 1 innocent person accidentally found guilty, so that you are sure to have the 99 guilty people caught and punished.

[taiwan_girl]

and @improviso Good to see you again!!

[Mik]

@mark said:

I am also conflicted about the death penalty. Far too many innocent people have been murdered by the state but I am also OK with this, and other cases that deal with such truly guilty monsters.

Yeah, I have myriad reasons for opposing it, far more than supporting.

[LuFins Dad]

I’m personally against it, but not shedding any tears, either. I’ll support a candidate that opposes the death penalty, but only if they meet a laundry list of other positions, first.

While I hope that this brings closure to Nathan and the family, I don’t ultimately believe it will bring peace, and I hope they have found their peace in other ways.

[Mik]

No, I don't either. Pretty anticlimactic, I think.

[jodi]

Nice to see you, Improv. 17 years, wow.