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FINALLY... Justice for Denise

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    It does make me think about my opposition to capital punishment - how I can believe that yet feel some sense of satisfaction that this monster breathes no more.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      I think that's a natural feeling. If I were in charge, I'd make death row far more of a laborious punishment. Move bricks for 15 hours every day. In other words, increase the deterrent.

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        Wow. 17 years. Look at those ‘kids’ now. Crazy.

        Thanks for posting this Imrpov and good to see you.

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • MikM Mik

          It does make me think about my opposition to capital punishment - how I can believe that yet feel some sense of satisfaction that this monster breathes no more.

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          jon-nyc
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          #11

          @Mik said:

          It does make me think about my opposition to capital punishment - how I can believe that yet feel some sense of satisfaction that this monster breathes no more.

          Easy for me, I’m not against it in theory so much as in practice. Too many innocents have been convicted of murders they didn’t commit. But I’m satisfied they got the right guy and happy to see him fry.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            I am also conflicted about the death penalty. Far too many innocent people have been murdered by the state but I am also OK with this, and other cases that deal with such truly guilty monsters.

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              I am not against the death penalty, but I think it is a waste of money. I believe it does nothing to prevent crime or make people think twice about doing crime. It costs huge amounts of money to keep someone on death row, and takes forever (if ever) for execution. Doing life in prison is hard, regardless of what you did.

              I remember reading an article (I think about Malaysia but am not sure) about different court "philosophies" and in the US, we would rather have 99 guilty people go free so that we do not accidentally do something to 1 innocent person. In Malaysia(?), it is "okay" to have 1 innocent person accidentally found guilty, so that you are sure to have the 99 guilty people caught and punished.

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                taiwan_girl
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                and @improviso Good to see you again!! 😍

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                • markM mark

                  I am also conflicted about the death penalty. Far too many innocent people have been murdered by the state but I am also OK with this, and other cases that deal with such truly guilty monsters.

                  MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  @mark said:

                  I am also conflicted about the death penalty. Far too many innocent people have been murdered by the state but I am also OK with this, and other cases that deal with such truly guilty monsters.

                  Yeah, I have myriad reasons for opposing it, far more than supporting.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    #16

                    I’m personally against it, but not shedding any tears, either. I’ll support a candidate that opposes the death penalty, but only if they meet a laundry list of other positions, first.

                    While I hope that this brings closure to Nathan and the family, I don’t ultimately believe it will bring peace, and I hope they have found their peace in other ways.

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
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                      No, I don't either. Pretty anticlimactic, I think.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        Nice to see you, Improv. 17 years, wow.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          Someone told me Peggy passed. Is that true?

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Not that I’m aware of. She really withdrew from Social Media, but she was a former employee of Jordan Kitt’s, and we have this informal network that keeps track of each other. I haven’t heard anything to that end.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Not that I’m aware of. She really withdrew from Social Media, but she was a former employee of Jordan Kitt’s, and we have this informal network that keeps track of each other. I haven’t heard anything to that end.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said:

                              Not that I’m aware of. She really withdrew from Social Media, but she was a former employee of Jordan Kitt’s, and we have this informal network that keeps track of each other. I haven’t heard anything to that end.

                              Same here. We exchanged messages a while ago. She's remarried - has had some struggles but seemed to be in a good place.

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                                Wow - Seeing those kids grown now, hopefully this gives them all some sense of closure - but so very sad, especially listening to Noah.

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                                  I had to go up to Bethesda this week.

                                  It had been 7+ years since I had been on the Capital Beltway - I drove there daily for many years.

                                  There were several drivers there that deserved capital punishment - not the kind with the 17 year wait. Summary execution would be justified in many cases.

                                  And it is just over 15 years since Improv flew my airplane.

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                                    This flaming liberal still believes in the death penalty, but not the current United States method of years and years of stays and appeals that are just throwing good money down the toilet, good taxpayer money. Tighten up that time span and do what needs to be done when there’s no shadow of a doubt the guilt.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      I had to go up to Bethesda this week.

                                      It had been 7+ years since I had been on the Capital Beltway - I drove there daily for many years.

                                      There were several drivers there that deserved capital punishment - not the kind with the 17 year wait. Summary execution would be justified in many cases.

                                      And it is just over 15 years since Improv flew my airplane.

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                                      @Copper @nobodysock Good to see you guys!!!! 😘

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        I had to go up to Bethesda this week.

                                        It had been 7+ years since I had been on the Capital Beltway - I drove there daily for many years.

                                        There were several drivers there that deserved capital punishment - not the kind with the 17 year wait. Summary execution would be justified in many cases.

                                        And it is just over 15 years since Improv flew my airplane.

                                        MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote last edited by Mik
                                        #26

                                        @Copper said:

                                        I had to go up to Bethesda this week.

                                        It had been 7+ years since I had been on the Capital Beltway - I drove there daily for many years.

                                        There were several drivers there that deserved capital punishment - not the kind with the 17 year wait. Summary execution would be justified in many cases.

                                        And it is just over 15 years since Improv flew my airplane.

                                        Yes. All this adaptive cruise control and lane departure stuff is all well and good, but what I want is a dash mounted disintegrator gun.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                          A kinder, gentler option would be a zero-point energy ray gun (See The Incredibles movie) that allows you to lift the offending vehicle up in the air and put them back where they belong.

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