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The Ukraine war thread

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #3080

    Interesting but I seriously doubt western forces would try to occupy the region.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by Renauda
      #3081

      Normally I doubt there would much appetite for a Western megapower but nowadays…who knows? Perhaps certain a region like Chukotka for purely strategic reasons but nothing much else.

      Russian far east though is definitely a desirable backyard sandbox for the Chinese.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote last edited by
        #3082

        Ukraine groans a collective “WTF?” to Trump’s latest Putin comments:

        https://kyivindependent.com/kyiv-groans-a-collective-wtf-to-trumps-latest-putin-comments/

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote last edited by
          #3083

          FFS

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote last edited by
            #3084

            General Keith Kellogg speaks:

            https://kyivindependent.com/keith-kellogg-says-he-left-trumps-white-house-to-be-free-to-talk-about-ukraine/

            Elbows up!

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            • W Offline
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              Wim
              wrote last edited by
              #3085

              And again: the Trump 'kompromat'. Si non e vero, e bene trovato.

              https://www.kyivpost.com/post/69648

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote last edited by
                #3086

                This is an old claim. I doubt he would be stupid enough to misbehave in Russia.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • W Wim

                  And again: the Trump 'kompromat'. Si non e vero, e bene trovato.

                  https://www.kyivpost.com/post/69648

                  RenaudaR Offline
                  RenaudaR Offline
                  Renauda
                  wrote last edited by Renauda
                  #3087

                  @Wim

                  I saw that earlier today. There have been other articles published the past year or so citing Mussayev’s claims. He appears to have been at this for some time.

                  I am of the opinion that there is nothing there and that Mussayev is conjuring this up to get attention in the hope of gaining recognition as an “expert/influencer” and cashing in on what that role offers in the charged populist dichotomy of our times. Even if there is a grain of truth in his claims, I highly doubt any serious kompromat on Trump involves women of any age group. Rather, it would be of a financial nature involving investments of ill gotten Russian money into Trump family owned properties. Essentially Putin knows and has the paperwork showing who, when, where and how much to the penny was involved in laundering money via the Trump syndicate.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote last edited by
                    #3088

                    I think you're quite right that financial shenanigans would be much more likely.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • W Offline
                      W Offline
                      Wim
                      wrote last edited by
                      #3089

                      The claim that Kazakhstan tried something on Trump in 2017 was -at least for me- a new element.

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote last edited by Renauda
                        #3090

                        New to me as well but, all the same, not at all compelling for the simple reason it places too many people in the know.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote last edited by
                          #3091

                          WTF, is he talking about?

                          Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One, Trump on Tuesday said Ukraine had "better come to the table fast."

                          Trump has previously signalled his impatience with the lack of swift progress in solving the four-year conflict.

                          I wonder why, the lack of progress?

                          Wait a minute…..

                          Anne Applebaum gets it. Why can’t the WH narcissist demagogue?

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote last edited by
                            #3092

                            Insanity.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              Renauda
                              wrote last edited by
                              #3093

                              Cleese cuts out an important portion of the interview - an even better short of the interview with Applebaum:

                              Elbows up!

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                              • AxtremusA Offline
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                                Axtremus
                                wrote last edited by
                                #3094

                                Yeah ... quite likely the alternative will put in a better team to deal with this. (And yes, I also saw the AOC thread.)

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                                • RenaudaR Offline
                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  Renauda
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #3095

                                  Indeed, Nikki Haley would have had professional diplomats and security specialist take the lead. Nor would she have let Putin con or intimidate the US.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #3096

                                    NYT's news analysis starts leads with this headline:

                                    Trump Bets on Diplomacy Without Diplomats

                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/us/politics/trump-witkoff-kushner-diplomacy.html

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #3097

                                      Four years ago today. 😞

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        Four years ago today. 😞

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #3098

                                        @taiwan_girl

                                        Arthur Dron is a 22-year-old graduate student of journalism at Ivan Franko National University of Lviv. In 2020, Dron published his first collection of poetry, Dormitory №6, which has been translated into Lithuanian, English, Polish, Italian, and Belarusian. However, now, instead of visiting lectures and receiving awards for his work, he is protecting Ukraine on the battlefield and writing poems about the experience of war. Despite the gentle quietness of his poems, Dron’s voice is loud in the sphere of modern Ukrainian poetry both in Ukraine and abroad.

                                        First Letter to the Corinthians

                                        Love is patient. Love is kind.
                                        It is not jealous, is not pompous.
                                        Love is terrified like a beast
                                        but it perseveres.

                                        Love could give up and abandon it all
                                        but it perseveres
                                        Sometimes, love has gunshot wounds to
                                        its legs or bullet fragments lodged in
                                        them.

                                        Tourniquets squeeze love’s legs,
                                        or it has no legs anymore.
                                        Then love’s friends carry love.

                                        Love digs trenches and lives in them.
                                        It gnaws ice from the bottle cut in half
                                        when it gets thirsty at negative four.
                                        Love takes up combat duty,
                                        gets into position
                                        with hernias, fevers, prostatitis,
                                        with blast injuries,
                                        asthmas and allergies,
                                        with a high probability
                                        of not making it back,
                                        with thoughts about
                                        the most significant one.
                                        It bears all things, believes all things,
                                        hopes all things, endures all things!

                                        Love can distinguish by ear
                                        the shots of rocket launchers,
                                        the strikes of mortar shells, and
                                        the movement of tanks.
                                        Love’s eyes hurt when it stares into the
                                        thermal imager for too long.
                                        Love wakes up at night
                                        when the mice in the dugout crawl
                                        under its field coat.
                                        Sometimes, love vomits long in the
                                        trees after heavy combat.
                                        Every now and then, it closes the eyes of
                                        its friends.
                                        Love wraps them up in sleeping bags
                                        and carries them away.

                                        Love never fails!
                                        But where there are prophecies, they
                                        will cease;
                                        where there are tongues, they will
                                        be stilled;
                                        where there is knowledge, it will pass
                                        away.
                                        For sometimes, the shelling is over,
                                        and friends close Love’s eyes,
                                        wrap it up in a sleeping bag,
                                        and carry it away.

                                        And then it passes to the living.

                                        Background and analysis:

                                        https://nanovic.nd.edu/features/the-first-letter-to-the-corinthians/

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
                                          RenaudaR Offline
                                          Renauda
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #3099

                                          An excellent interview with Fiona Hill from yesterdays Global Story on BBC World Service:

                                          https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct71b2

                                          Elbows up!

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